Trump to Start Declassify Deep State Documents Including 'Bucket 5' in Next 7-8 Days

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    He listed 10 events.

    You are calling them obstruction.

    I interpret his conclusion to mean that calling them obstruction of justice is a matter of opinion.
     
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    Neither.

    “Investigating” the investigators has one purpose, and one purpose only. To cast doubt on the investigator, by proxy is designed to create doubt in the findings of the investigation.

    This is all rightwinglandia nutbaggery. Strzok is a great example. You point out that he is a democrat, then by proxy that must mean that he skewed the investigation. The problem you have is that in all of this the right has never shown how that biased the investigation in any way, manner, shape or form. And to take it a step further, by the standard set for Strzok, then that means that any investigator who is republican must have skewed the investigation in Trumps favor then right ?
     
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    So then answer a simple question:

    If Trump tells McGahn to fire Muller, and he does, who is guilty of obstruction, McGahn or Trump ?
     
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    Are you claiming the files he's releasing are lies?
     
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    Oh, so when Comey claims Brennan wanted the dossier to be included in the IC and Brennan testified under oath that he knew nothing about it, you have no problem with someone lying. Got it.
     
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    If they have nothing to hide, they must be welcoming a full investigation in order to show all of America that they are shining examples of truth, honesty, and fairness.
     
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    Ummm no. I’m saying that selective release to paint a pre-determined political narrative is what will happen.

    Hell, the right has spent the last 2 years doing just that with FISA
     
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    Sounds like the left and tax returns lol
     
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    Well if Trump really wants the truth let him release the entire unredacted Mueller report. Or shall we all just die laughing at his hypocracy?
     
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    You want him to break the law like Nadler wanted Barr to break the law?
     
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    Sorry but Trump has the authority.
     
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    Evidently you are not aware of grand jury secrecy laws.
     
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    I'm 100% for releasing the entire report. Obama won't be, but I support it.
     
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    fine, let's see what Comey did and why...

    but Trump is setting the precedent for the next dem President to release everything Trump was investigated for.....
     
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    Why should either of them be?

    Trump had a complaint that Mueller is biased. We know that Trump's complaint had merit.

    How would the investigation have been obstructed if Mueller had been replaced by someone who had no connection, good or bad, to Trump? Or Comey?

    I'm having a hard time believing that you are posting in good faith. We have our sides. We all cheer for one over the other. But... we should all be able to recognize, and abide by, some general sense of fairness.
     
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    I never said that. This is just another unverified claim from Trey Gowdy, and forwarded by Fox News

    Brennan said “it wasn’t used for the assesment”, while Trey Gowdy says “he's seen an email form Comey that says Brennen pushed for it”. This is a game of six degrees of Kevin Bacon thats not proven, but has become gospel in rightwinglandia
     
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    Obama has no say, it was a Republican leading the FBI, so let's see it, and why he choose to conceal about Trump and leak about Hillary right before the election
     
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    Who said Obama had a say in it? I said I'm 100% for releasing it. Obama won't be.
     
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    Mueller was a republican and thus far it seems he was very fair to Trump, nothing has been disputed....
     
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    Sorry but what does Obama have to do with the Mueller report?
     
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    Because it involves the investigation into Trump prior to the election. And who ordered wiretaps. I've been waiting to read these for years.

    Release the report!
     
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    Jebus man. If you dont think that firing Mueller is obstruction we are done here.

    Mueller was not bias. Trump didn’t want to be investigated, so on 10 different occasions he tried to change the investigation thru obstruction. Trumps claim had absolutely no merit. TC, your smarter than this. We may disagree politically buy I’ve always respected the debate, and your side of that debate. But to claim that their is no sense of “fairness” because you think that the POTUS firing the special counsel is not obstruction is wrong TC. Firing Mueller would be the textbook definition of obstruction.
     
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    What exactly do you think grand jury secrecy laws have to do with the Mueller report? Have uou even bothered to read what has been released so far?
     
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    Obama wont care, Trump is going after republicans, why woudl he care... Republicans controlled the FBI - I am sure Hillary would like to see why Comey concealed the Trump investigation but blabbed about hers

    Trump is not gonna get much done between now and 2020, but gonna be a show to watch.... :) would expect nothing less from a reality TV president
     
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    We are in agreement. We want to see the full report, as it involves the administration of 2012-2016.

     

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