Clarence Thomas Pens Screed Comparing Women Who Obtain Abortions to Eugenicists

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...iana-abortion-eugenics-nondiscrimination.html

Finally a supreme court justice said what I have been saying all along.

Abortion=Eugenics

Abortion lets women, kill a human life because it is undesirable for her, often leading abortions due to the livable yet sick baby, race, sex, or disability. Aborting for any other reason other than the health of the mother is Eugenics plain and simple

 

So you are arguing that when doctors and a mother of quadruplets agree that in order for three of the fetus to have any realistic chance of survival, that the fourth should be removed, that Eugenics is the only reason for their decision?

 

He also compared birth control to Nazi science.

I’m excited to live in a country where an additional million children are born a year into families that don’t want them and most likely cannot afford them. Our commercial prison system is also very excited.

Aren’t you?

If we make birth control illegal that number will easily skyrocket.

Are you excited?

 

I support free birth control (unless its the woman I am with as I want children) but I am exited that abortion rights will be over turned

 

1 in 1M and clearly that is not a choice they want to make they are having to for medical reasons. Not what I said I said when the woman makes the choice because she wants to.

 

So when you have a child, let’s assume your child is a healthy baby girl — who eventually goes through puberty — and is raped around age 11 by one of the same children that would have been aborted but instead was born into a broken and unwanted home — will you be the one to tell her she much carry that individuals “baby” in her to term — ending most opportunities she may have had in life — or will the police get to do this honor?

 

Medical exception have been excluded in many of the bills being passed. If a fetus is determined to be a legal human with the same right as you and me these types of questions will become extremely pertinent.

You are murdering one “child” to save three other “children”. Who has the authority to determine which child is murdered? Do they go to prison after the murder? Do the parents go to prison for agreeing to the murder. I know it sounds absurd insane — that’s because it is.

 

You claimed that ANY abortion outside the health of the mother was Eugenics. Now you are backpedaling because it's easy to prove you wrong.

And do YOU get to decide what defines the "health" of the mother? Is imminent suicide over a pregnancy considered the health of the mother ( yup, I had to document a 16 year old who killed herself because she couldn't face her mother with a fetus brewing)? You going to FORCE a woman with manic depression to go off her meds so she can carry the fetus for nine months? You going to crucify a mother for deciding not to carry to term when she's been exposed to Zika or the measles? You get some kind of jolly out of FORCING a raped woman who doesn't want to come forward because of the ridicule and invasiveness of a rape trail to put herself in that position just to get rid of the rapist's fetus?

 

If it is ilegal, I would tell her, im sorry but its to dangerious to get it done illegally but because it was due to rape, I will help any way you need including informally adopting the baby its 100% up to you.

edit oh age 11, I read 16, up in the north people don't rape preteens all rape is bad but yeah that 10 year old **** is bible belt hill billy ****

 

Well at least your beliefs are consistent so for that I commend you. That’s not normally the case with many people.

I don’t agree with you though, I don’t believe it’s a necessary evil to force this upon anyone for any reason. But that is just my opinion and thankfully I will never be placed into that situation personally.

 

Uh, let's say that correctly: the right of women to their own bodies would be taken away EXACTLY like the slaves had their right to their own bodies taken away... and for that you're "excited"...and I know how...

 

huh? What did you exit? I don't understand.

 

So a woman RAPED by her FATHER or her BROTHER or a complete and total stranger is supposed to happily carry that unwanted child in her body for nine months reminded every single day of the worst experience of her life??Then give birth to a child she did not want nor volunteer for and be forced to raise and provide for it??Now that is CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT!!!

 

Why is the worst case and least likely always the go to scenario?

 

If it is overturned it will be restored in the future.

 

I agree, this scenario is a bit over the top.

That said, if we only write laws as if roses grow from everyone butts and we puke rainbows, then laws aren't really needed at all, are they?

Truth is women and young girls get raped. Truth is most women who get raped never report it, and if you've watched any woman have to go through the invasive pelvic exams, the impersonal and accusatory police report, and the total humiliation of a trail, then you won't question why. Truth is that laws that FORCE a woman to go through that hell in order to get rid of the rapist's fetus are a second rape. Because so many rapes go unreported, one has to assume that every abortion could be precipitated by a rape.

Personally, I think a woman should be able to exercise her 2nd Amendment rights against any jack-off that tries to FORCE her to go through an invasive pelvic exam and rape trail just to get rid of a rapist's fetus.

 

It’s not least likely. It is currently playing out in Ohio. I agree it is the worse case but that is to just illustrate how overboard some of these laws are going.

No one will ever be able to convince me that a woman should be forced by the state to carry her rapists child to term under threat of imprisonment or death.

 

I understand what your saying. I feel that morally abortion is wrong but it's settled law. My own issue is that young men who aren't ready for parenthood aren't given the same ability that women are who aren't ready for Parenthood are given. If abortion is the law at least give men the right to paper abortions.

 

Medical reasons, rape and incest are the only things I think abortion should be for. If a state imprisoned a woman for aborting a fetus from rape I'd think that'd be a quick way for those legislators to be voted out.

 

The day we can stuff a fetus up a man's ass and have it continue to grow to the point of viability ... that's the day men should be given the same choices as a woman in matters of pregnancy.

 

It's matters in potential Parenthood that I'm speaking of.
I'm not saying men should have a say in if the woman has an abortion. I'm saying women are able to end the pregnancy because the situation not being right to raise the child. That's more than just pregnancy. Why aren't men given the right to forfeit all responsibly to the potential child as well?

 

Men should have the right to claim no rights to the child and not be forced to pay child support. This isn’t being proposed anywhere though.

 

That’s what just about all of the anti-abortion laws are doing and is at the core of the abortion debate.

Either a fetus is human and has all the rights of a human or it is not.

If it is — then even in counts of rape it is still life and has rights, thus it’s murder to kill it under any circumstances. If it isn’t — then the bodily rights of the pregnant woman supersede the non-existent right’s of the fetus.

There really isn’t any middle ground.

The fetus is either a person or it isn’t.

 

I agree. I think abortion is settled and trying to tweak it all the way to pro life or all the way pro choice is a waste of time these states are doing. It's a shame that that step isn't being proposed anywhere in any meanful way.

 

I hope they allow men to get a veto, because that is something I would proudly use to override any woman who was carrying my child from aborting relationship or one night stand would not matter.

Takes 2 to make a baby both should have equal rights to the baby and guaranteed parental rights automatically.