BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. Bluesguy

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    He acted on the same guidelines which is why, after the Democrats said that obstruction of justice and perjury and subornation of perjury and witness tampering did not rise to the level or impeachment and did not vote to remove him from office, he had to postpone prosecution then IC Robert Ray went to the White House on the day Clinton was leaving office and said here is the indictment what we are prepared to serve you with and prosecute you for, here is the plea bargain agreement.
     
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    The impeachment is based on his findings which is no conclusion a crime was committed.

    Mueller has made NO accusation of a crime and has said both in his report and in his statement they could not conclude a crime was committed.
     
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    Mueller merely had to go back through the AG and was overseen by the DOJ, Starr reported his findings directly to the Congress, he worked for the three judge panel. That makes no difference in whether the President can be prosecuted for a crime. NO a President cannot be prosecuted while in office, only when he is out of office whether by choice, by election or by impeachment and removal. The investigators into possible crimes had a duty to report any crimes they found were committed, PERIOD. Mueller reported no such crimes. He said they could not conclude any crimes were committed. END OF STORY.
     
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    ROFL well DUH the SC said they could not conclude a crime was committed, how do you find someone guilty of a crime when the prosecutor says it could not determine a crime was even committed?

    What crime was he charged with? And if a SC is going to go after someone because of their right to describe it as they see fit...................geez bring out the brown boots.
     
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    I can post that photo of Trump with the Clintons ... of course that proves ... what?

    I can post that photo of Trump with Storm Daniels ... of course that unequivocally proves what?

    I can post that photo of Trump with Omarosa ... of course that only proves that Trump is a moron for hiring her ...
     
  6. The Mello Guy

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    Lol the executive branch doesn’t decide if the executive branch can be impeached. You’re one of the smarter posters here, you’ve got to see the problem with that logic!
     
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    And he said why he made no conclusion and it wasn’t lack of evidence lol
     
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    So clinton wasn’t indicted? Because that’s unconstitutional right?
     
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    I said nothing to the contrary, what does that have to do with what I did say?

    The LAW as Congress including at the behest of Gerald Nadler says the SC reports to the AG. What are you missing here? What are you trying to claim here? We have the Mueller investigation in which no crime is alleged. Mueller made no criminal accusations today. So what crime are you talking about when no one has been accused of one and the SC has said in his report and in his statement today they could not conclude a crime was committed. That's it, if he could not conclude a crime was committed the case is legalling CLOSED.
     
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    Again you think the executive branch can clear itself. It’s closed when Congress day it’s closed as they are the only ones who can bring the president to justice if they determine crimes were committed.
     
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    He plea bargained the charges which were withheld until he left office when his term ran out since the Democrats said obstruction of justice, perjury, subornation of perjury and witness tampering did not rise to the level of impeachment and removal. So what is it Trump would be impeached and remove for?
     
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    So you SAY you listen carefully and understand, but you DON'T. There was nothing "despicable" about what Mueller said or did this morning.

    Take your post #552 for example. You completely spun and missed what was said.
     
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    Again I say what the LAW is. Again I ask what crime did Mueller alleged or are you saying that since he is an DOJ employee he cannot make a determination and therefore this has all been a big waste of time? Why did we even have a Mueller investigation if you claim a SC cannot investigation the Executive Branch. What's been the object of the exercise. Had Mueller come out and said "Yep Trump is a Russian spy who is in Putin's back pocket and totally obstructed justice" then it would OK for the executive branch to investigate itself?
     
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    Mueller clearly explained why he couldn't report any evidence of Trump's guilt. Are you all pretending to be so confused or didn't you hear Mueller? Go listen to what he said!
     
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    Mueller, as a member of the DOJ, refused to violate DOJ rules. DOJ rules say a sitting president cannot be indicted. Do you understand now?
     
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    Mueller didn't say that. Quote him directly with a reference link to prove it's a quote.
     
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    How’d a sitting president get charged? DOJ guidelines different back in the 90s??
     
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    I didn’t say they can’t investigate, I said they can’t exonerate themselves. They can turn their findings over to congress.
     
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    I think the Dems would be smart to just take their time and drop a turd a week on Trump leading up to the election. Barr and Trump are in stall, cover up and play the whiney wittle victim. After a while, even some of Trump’s avid followers will start to get sick of him.
     
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    As it would be for the D's. I care if they win or lose, I don't care for either BS elitist party.
    But IMO, impeachment now is a waste and likely huge damage to their chances in 2020.
     
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    It's not up to Mueller whether or not he testifies, especially when asked to appear before a Grand Jury.
     
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    Worry no more.

    Most of us got it.
     
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    That is true. Mueller was to report to the AG who would make public as much of the report as he wished and/or legally could. However, there was absolutely no policy prohibiting him from spelling out evidence of improper or illegal activity involving the President. He chose not to do that but got his parting shot in an inference that Congress could.

    That was wrong
    Evil
    Malicious
    Indefensible
     
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    I don't believe I missed or misrepresented anything.
     
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    Did RP12 imply that Muller was supposed to be "judge and jury"?
     

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