BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Because if this so called investigation was nothing but an attempted coup we need to be made aware of that.
     
  2. Josephwalker

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    Was Manafort convicted if any crime before going to work for Trump? Did the FBI warn Trump he had previously been under investigation by then before being hired by Trump?
     
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    I don’t know about that, but I did hear that Obama warned Trump not to hire Flynn as a courtesy knowing that he was under investigation. Manafort was gone by that time.
     
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    Flynn was convicted of nothing but a process crime that only occurred as part of the coup attempt investigation not of anything he had previously done. He is a great man that served his country admirably and was destroyed in an attempt to oust Trump.
     
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    So since they were "always connecting with various campaign representatives", that should be easy to prove. And if thats true, then the surveillance of any campaign would be justified right ?

    what do you mean "weaponize" ? You mean they investigated why Russia interfered in our election ? And that they tried to find out to what extent ?

    Or was it that the Trump campaign had multiple contacts with Russians (per the Mueller Report), and that they lied about having those meetings ?

    And you didn't answer my questions in the previous post ? How did Strzok being a dem skew the investigation ?
     
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    What "coup" ?

    The investigation was into motives for the Russian interference into our elections. This did NOT start out as an investigation of the Trump campaign. But to admit that would destroy every talking points on the right
     
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    "So since they were "always connecting with various campaign representatives", that should be easy to prove. And if thats true, then the surveillance of any campaign would be justified right ?"


    I've been spamming the forum with this article. Maybe you haven't seen it. Read it.

    In 2008, our intelligence community produced a report detailing the efforts of foreign governments. I think that this is the salient point:

    "Eight years ago, foreign intelligence services “met with campaign contacts and staff, used human source networks for policy insights, exploited technology to get otherwise sensitive data, engaged in perception management to influence policy,” it said. “This exceeded traditional lobbying and public diplomacy.”"

    https://apnews.com/936b3fe969a540559ecc7503a547e2ad

    "what do you mean "weaponize" ? You mean they investigated why Russia interfered in our election ? And that they tried to find out to what extent ?"

    I'm not sure that I can explian this clearly. Well, here goes:

    Picture a meeting where Clapper, Brennan, Lynch, and Rice are discussing ways to sabotage Trump. In that meeting, someone says: "Look, we know that Russians are going to try to connect with Trump. They've been doing it for, like, forever. They did it to us during our campaigns. Let's take those contacts, that we know will happen, and make it look like there is some grand conspiracy between Trump and RUSSIA!".

    "Or was it that the Trump campaign had multiple contacts with Russians (per the Mueller Report), and that they lied about having those meetings ?"


    This is another tough thing for me to make clear.

    First, it was dumb for people to try to hide those contacts. But...

    Do you remember the manufactured RUSSIA! frenzy of those times? Everybody was going nuts about THE RUSSIANS!. Everybody, from government officials, to members of Congress, to the Fake News media was screaming about THE RUSSIANS!. It was a feeding frenzy. The torches and pitchforks were out.

    Can you imagine what it was like for Trump campaign members? Can you imagine how people might look at each other and say: "I don't know any Russians, do you know any Russians?" "No, I don't know any Russians."

    "And you didn't answer my questions in the previous post ? How did Strzok being a dem skew the investigation ?"

    Sorry. I'm not going to speculate on this. You'll have to ask someone who is making that argument. Is Strzok a Democrat? I don't even know.
     
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    So you admit Mueller found no Trump collusion as democrats had been screaming for two years.
     
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    You mean the invesigation into the guy Russia was helping? While that guy was lying about his business deals in Russia? While that guy was defending putin killing journalists? While that guy had a Russian puppet running his campaign? While that guy hired a foreign policy advisor previously recruited by Russian spies? While his son took a meeting he was told was about the Russian govt wanting to help his dad win? That investigation?
    Yah why on earth would they look into that?!?
     
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    Trump threw Flynn under the bus. Sad!
     
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    Sorry but TDS talking points are not grounds for investigation.
     
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    Mueller financially destroyed Flynn and then threatened to financially destroyed his son if he didn't plead guilty to something he didn't do and yes that is sad
     
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    Did I state something false? Nobody can look at all that and say there was no basis to investigate.
     
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    Why’d trump fire him and not just pardon him?
     
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    That must happen.
     
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    He’s already been fired and bankrupted lol
    And he’s already an admitted felon
     
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    He will be pardoned and the sooner the better.
     
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    Obama warner him not to hire him just days after the election. Yates claimed the investigation didn’t happen until much later during the transition...so how did Obama know so early???
     
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    Anybody not afflicted by TDS sees those allegations and distortions for just that and the Mueller witch hunt was founded on a fake dossier that was actually Hillary paid for opposition research
     
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    Dossier has nothing to do with the mueller probe. Russia’s crimes to aid trump was the reason
     
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    The Comey investigation was the precurser for the Mueller investigation and the Comey investigation was founded on the fake dossier.
     
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    No it wasn’t. It was because Russia was breaking laws to help trump.
     
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    Oh really. Source that says exactly that please and no Rachel is not a source. Lol
     
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    You want me to prove a negative? How about you prove your claim?
     
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    A pardon must happen.
     
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