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    Most people wanted the individual mandate repealed.. thst was one of Trump's msin Campaign promises.

    I for one wrote in Ben Carson in 2016 because he is a good man who wanted to do good.
     
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    For those without any understanding of science things do appear to be "magic".

    Planes can fly without anything holding them up in the sky because of "magic".

    The stars move across the night sky because of "magic".

    Volcanoes, earthquakes, tornadoes and hurricanes are all "magic".

    But when you learn the SCIENCE you understand that there is no "magic" at all. Just the application of the various laws of science and enough time, billions of years in our case here on earth, life will form from the same elements that are common throughout the universe.
     
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    That would only have happened if you found another well paying job.
     
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    That was a mistake by your healthcare insurer, NOT Obamacare.
     
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    In other words you had one of those pre-Obamacare SCAM policies that were cheap but provided ZERO actual coverage. Then Obamacare made them actually cover your wife's cancer, which would never have happened under your scam policy so you would have been $80,000 in the hole. You should be thanking Obama for saving you all of that money.
     
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    And thoes elements got there how?
     
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    I guess that depends on what you define as well paying. The most my wife and i have ever made is just under 40 grand and that was one year most years are low 30s
     
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    Doesn't matter forcing people to buy a product they cannot afford to use is evil.
    Like saying yes you can have water, but you have to buy this glass for a million dollars.
     
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    We had no insurance at the time.
     
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    Stars!
     
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    So you found another job and therefore were no longer entitled to the subsidy.
     
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    And the stars got there how?
     
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    Irrelevant deflection.
     
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    Nope
     
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    IOW's you were unable to afford ANY healthcare at all until Obamacare made it affordable.
     
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    Matter can neither be created nor destroyed therefore it has ALWAYS existed in one form or another.
     
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    Not irrelevant, gets to the core of the matter, peoples circumstances vary to greatly to set a limit on what is affordable and what is not.
    Still totally morally bankrupt and evil. You have to be a power hungry megalomaniac to force people to buy something they are unable to use. Just like every other leftist issue. It's about dominance.
     
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    No that's completely backwards.
    Obamacare took all my "disposable" income then the only plan i could pay for would have left me with an 8000 dollar bill that i would have had no way to pay. If it had not been for Obamacare i could have gone to the doctor and paid them the money i was paying Obamacare..

    Again it's about greed and corruption and control. Not a out healthcare in the least.
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    So magic.
     
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    Good points!

    Trump said ( another whopper LIE) that he would replace Obamacare within weeks of his administration....but the Repubs had NOTHING to replace it with, NEVER came up with a better plan.....they just did NOT care about Americans and their health....
     
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    Because they know we cannot pay for it.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Good points!

    Trump said ( another whopper LIE) that he would replace Obamacare within weeks of his administration....but the Repubs had NOTHING to replace it with, NEVER came up with a better plan.....they just did NOT care about Americans and their health....



    So it's to hell with American's health!!???? Don't work to figure out a way to pay for something so vital ?? How lazy can they get??!!

    They can pay for Donald's golf, they can pay for American's health.
     
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    Ok it's so important to you then YOU should pay for it.

    I think it would be vastly more important to teach people personal responsibility and work ethic. Then they will be worth employers paying wages that can afford health care.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Good points!

    Trump said ( another whopper LIE) that he would replace Obamacare within weeks of his administration....but the Repubs had NOTHING to replace it with, NEVER came up with a better plan.....they just did NOT care about Americans and their health....





    So it's to hell with American's health!!???? Don't work to figure out a way to pay for something so vital ?? How lazy can they get??!!

    They can pay for Donald's golf, they can pay for American's health.



    :) Thank you for showing you couldn't address the FACTS in my posts :)
     
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    Yet another load of bovine excrement.
     
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