How does “Common sense gun control” prevent mass shootings?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by TOG 6, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I hope so, because it exposes the anti-gunners lie for what it is, a total lie.
     
  2. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2008
    Messages:
    8,826
    Likes Received:
    1,046
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Every "common sense" gun control law has already been passed. If there was not enough consensus to get it passed, then it wasn't common sense. And since those laws have been passed, and have not prevented mass shootings, the answer to the OP's question is no.
     
    Well Bonded likes this.
  3. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    9,503
    Likes Received:
    4,833
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The 2nd Amendment validates his position. The right to self defense is an inherent right.

    Both vague and irrelevant.

    I haven't read through the past exchanges between you two, but he is likely giving more than he needs to give. The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution is quite clear as to what is protected (since self defense is an inherent right).

    It is the only thing that matters in discussions such as this. The US Constitution, as it is literally written, within the context of which it is written, is the law of the land.

    The Constitution says what it says; it is quite clear.

    Why?

    Why?

    Why?

    Why? Did this person commit a felony? Were they on their private property? Were they in public? Did they harm anyone else?

    Define "mentally unstable"...

    Amendment II of the US Constitution stands in your way.

    Yes, he does. So do I.
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,602
    Likes Received:
    63,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "How does “Common sense gun control” prevent mass shootings?"

    should walmart be allowed to sell machine Guns with proof of being over 18 like a pack of smokes?

    or do common sense gun laws make us safer?
     
  5. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,544
    Likes Received:
    7,658
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They should be able to sell them without proof.
     
  6. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Only if they are considered long guns.

    Absolutely not because there is no such thing as a common sense gun law, that's anti-gunner code for the less popular term gun control laws which they abandoned as it was not polling well.
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,602
    Likes Received:
    63,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    oh, so a ten year old child should be able to buy a machine gun?

    now I will agree, if one looks over 18, they should not be ID's for smokes or beer, some take that too far
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2019
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,602
    Likes Received:
    63,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    so making machine guns harder to buy then hand guns is not a common sense gun law?
     
  9. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think the killing of their own parents is a bit more of a problem than any or no waiting period could ever be, but really, you gun grabbers seem to latch onto the strangest bit of minutia in order to attempt to infringe on the rights of citizens...
     
  10. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    21,544
    Likes Received:
    7,658
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I doubt a 10 yr old will have the several hundred dollars needed to buy said item.

    But yes, age discrimination is unconstitutional. Parents can of course exercise their powers as guardian to hold in trust such property and supervise its use.
     
  11. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why, what's the difference if the purchaser is a law abiding citizen?
     
  12. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2017
    Messages:
    12,744
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Why, why, why? Because gun violence in our country is increasing daily. That's why, and I don't care whether you agree or not.
     
  13. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2017
    Messages:
    12,744
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not a "gun grabber". Owned gun and shotgun. I knew those boys and I believe that a waiting period was called for in this instance.
    When people with bad intentions purchase weapons of destruction, a waiting period may give time for a pause in the anger and an
    opportunity to consider the ramifications of that action.
     
  14. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A tactic that has been proven not to work.
     
  15. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2017
    Messages:
    12,744
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It may not work in every case and may work in some cases.
     
  16. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do be sure to let those present know how a ten year old could actually afford the market price of such a firearm if one were ever to become available.
     
  17. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Except for the fact that it does not work in any cases, and has indeed led to individuals being killed while they were forced to wait to take possession of their legal property.
     
  18. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Over three hundred million Americans, and you want my rights to be determined by patricidal brothers? I think not. Owned, as in past tense, whether by choice or court order, you sound like one of those ex-smokers that everyone hates, because they quit, everyone should...
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  19. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2018
    Messages:
    9,050
    Likes Received:
    4,354
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Never going to work, and it has been proven not to work.

    There two types of domestic arguments, continuing and immediate.

    A continuing argument is where both parties have an ongoing problem and fight about on a regular basis, should either party decide to bring it to a head and get a gun a waiting period will not deter such.

    An immediate argument is where one party discovers the other party is violating the agreed rules of the relationship, most commonly one comes home and finds the other having sex with a third party.

    In this case a waiting period solves nothing, the aggrieved party will get into an altercation with the cheating party, the aggrieved is not going to run out the door and buy a gun, and come back home to an empty structure, instead and this is based on my professional experience, it's starts verbal, escalates to physical.

    The aggrieved, if not physically able to damage the others, will simply retreat to the kitchen, get out a long knife and unleash their rage, no gun required, knives can kill quickly and unlike guns are silent.

    Anyone who claims a waiting period will lower crimes of passion is totally clueless as to how crimes of passion are actually carried out.
     
    Ddyad and Dispondent like this.
  20. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Straw purchase in a liberal metropolis, although that is a lot of lawns to cut given that 10 years have trouble competing with the illegal aliens for such jobs...
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  21. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2017
    Messages:
    12,744
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Anyone who believes that it never works is uninformed and set in their ways. My view is that a waiting period in the Menendez case
    may have been successful in avoiding that crime. Besides, what harm?
     
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2019
  22. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2017
    Messages:
    12,744
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Your argument makes sense but in all cases? No
     
  23. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because the view being presented on the part of yourself is idiotic and devoid of anything resembling a basis in reality.

    When the person who has to undergo the waiting period is murdered during the time they are denied being able to legally take possession of their legally owned firearm. Which, unlike the theory presented on the part of yourself, has actually happened.
     
  24. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2017
    Messages:
    12,744
    Likes Received:
    3,136
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My argument involves the person who is doing the dirty and who wants a gun to do it. The victim should go to the police if they feel threatened. Your argument does not include law enforcement but a gunfight instead.
     
  25. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,602
    Likes Received:
    63,043
    Trophy Points:
    113
    same way that 10 year old gets a hold of a gun... the parents leave money or guns lying around I suppose
     

Share This Page