As promised, Trump slashes aid to Central America over migrants

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  1. MolonLabe2009

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    Good move, President Trump.

    "Other priorities". Like helping Americans? Or maybe infrastructure? Or the wall? Or paying down our debts? Good :)
     
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    I see the left is having a hissy fit over Trump's proposal, probably because it cuts off the flow of future democrat voters, many who will probably vote in our elections for the first time in 2020.

    Isn't it amazing how the left can't remember how Clinton called illegals a scourge on the country and later on his wife and Obama wanted a wall?
     
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    Hopefully these nations figure things out, because the bank is closed.
     
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    Great news! Central America today, Israel tomorrow! Stop giving other Countries my money!
     
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    Cutting financial aid to the countries from which people are already fleeing due to the economic conditions is only going to make the illegal immigration problem worse than the 13 year high currently being experienced because of Trump's policies.
     
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    Giving those countries money in the past hasn't stopped the flow of illegals to this country, so bribing them isn't working.
     
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    LOL!

    Funny how this wasn't happening till the lib/prog/socialist party of nothing and no took over the purse strings of the House.
     
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    Nice move Sherlock, make the living conditions in their home country even worse,that'll definitely keep them at home????NOT!!!
     
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    This is not an all or nothing situation. Giving them financial aid does not stop the flow of illegals, but it does improve the economic conditions of that country and therefore makes it less likely that individuals will want to flee the country and its poor economic conditions.

    If you make the financial situation worse, then you make it more likely that individuals will try to flee the poor economic conditions of the country.

    That is precisely part of the reason (along with several other Trump enacted policies) why the current surge of illegals has resulted in a 13 year high.
     
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    are we talking storm victims?

    oh, not states like Iowa, I was thinking central USA

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration on Monday cut hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, after Trump blasted the three countries because thousands of their citizens had sought asylum at the U.S. border with Mexico."

    so now people will flee there as it needs help and try to come here for a better life and it will cost us more to process them, then we saved
     
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    They were fleeing to the United States even with the aid. So, there's no fricking difference.

    The people in these third world ****holes need to stay in their own third world ****holes and fix their own problems.
     
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    Get a better argument, that one is dumb as a brick.
     
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    Is there a difference between 1000 and 2000? Yes. And to pretend that the only difference that could exist is an option of 0 or whatever the current 13 year high is at is disingenuous.

    This is not an all or nothing situation. Giving them financial aid does not stop the flow of illegals completely, but it does improve the economic conditions of that country and therefore makes it less likely that individuals will want to flee the country and its poor economic conditions.
     
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    2 hours ago

    sounds like he is back tracking a bit - you almost have to wait a couple hours after Trump says something to see if he changes his mind

    "Administration Backtracks on Aid to Central America"

    https://www.newser.com/story/276653/us-restores-some-aid-to-central-american-nations.html

    "The Trump administration said Monday it is easing previously announced cuts in aid to the Central American nations of El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala but will not allow new funding until those countries do more to reduce migrant flows to the US."
     
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    Didn’t Mexico agree to not let them pass through?
     
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    No, they did not make that agreement.

    You can read the agreement, in full, at this link. In pertinent part to your point, they agreed,

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics...-full-text-secret-deal-trump-sheet-paper.html
     
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    I agree. The argument that we must send them money or they'll send us more "refugees" sounds almost like extortion. Who's to say if we send them X$ to stop sending X# "refugees", they won't just turn around and demand XXXX$ or threaten to send XXXX# "refugees"? And then where would it stop?

    It is not our responsibility to make every other country in the world as nice as America just so people will stay in their own countries. That's idiotic. It would be like telling me I'd better pay to rebuild a trailer park or expect those people to move into my house. EVERYBODY would think that was insane. But that's essentially what they're trying to do when they argue we'd better send these countries $$$$ to fix themselves or they're going to come here instead.

    You fix your country; we'll fix our country. And we'll have such first class border enforcement that you won't have any choice but to stay in your own country. Or we would, if the Democrats weren't so caught up in their frenzy of Trump-hate.
     
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    all evidence to the contrary says otherwise
     
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    You have no evidence, so I don't know why you bothered to make that post.
     
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    I'll give you good and easy summery:
    How much money has the United States given Central and South America over the years? What do we have to show for that? Nothing. They're still shi* holes no matter how much money we throw at them, and they will always be
     
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    They were ficking fleeing to the U.S. even before the aid was cut.

    So, the aid did diddly squat.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    Nothing to show for it? Illegal immigration rates have dropped dramatically and consistently over that same time period. And then you add on all of the economic links and business connections that US businesses have been able to establish in those countries?

    We send financial aid to other countries specifically because we want to pursue and protect US interests in those countries and in the region.
     
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    Rates have dropped huh? Didn't something like 1,000 people at one time got caught near EL Paso.
     
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    Or we just do this ROFL (if it's too long, skip to 1:05, or 1:50) :roflol:

     
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