Writer: Trump Sexually Assaulted Me at Bergdorf Goodman

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  1. Well Bonded

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    Do you even proof read what you write, because your statement makes zero sense?


    #me too is feel sorry for me feminist BS.

    As for fighting worth I have done quite a bit to training with women on how to fight back and level the playing field, way more that someone who perceives themselves as a weak victim ever could.

    My theory is prevention is much better route to travel, dead men don't rape women.

    The primary one I use is Refuse To Be A Victim.

    https://rtbav.nra.org/

    The second is Tactical Combat and Situational Awareness, knowing the world around you.

    http://www.nrawomen.tv/tips-and-tac...awareness-when-carrying-concealed/list/safety
     
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    Many also make bad choices, according to the Department of Justice 90% of rape victims knew their attacker, this tells me too many women fail to realize who they are hanging out with or around, which is not too smart.

    Or they changes their mind after the fact and claimed they where raped when they actually consented, which is why I remind guys to get it on tape.
     
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    If one person assaults another person, then the one doing the assaulting SHOULD be convicted. Can you have read anything I wrote and imagine that I endorse letting people assault other people, in any way, sexually or otherwise?

    But, again, I would refer you to what we all learned about the "Reign of Terror" in France in the late 18th-century, and in Nazi Germany less than 100 years ago. In both of those relatively recent examples, anyone with the popular, "politically-correct" affiliation could accuse anyone whose very identity did not harmonize with the desired "political-correctness", with nearly any kind of crime -- without evidence or proof -- and the "politically-incorrect" person was punished, often to DEATH. It's always easy to get 22 people, or more, to testify that some other person has committed some kind of crime when the "mob rule" fever replaces LAW....

    Think: Either we have LAW, or, we have LAWLESSNESS! Honestly, if after all this, you don't 'get it', then you probably cannot.... Thank God people with your viewpoint on 'justice' aren't a majority (again) or we'd all be living under a "Reign of Terror"....

    [​IMG] Do we really want to start destroying people without PROOF or EVIDENCE -- again?!
     
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    Circumstantial evidence is just that, the problem is, especially when you have a rich and famous figure that folks jump on the bandwagon 'smoke without fire' allegations. No one is being an extremist, not wrong to demand due process and the presumption of innocence.
     
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    Who is blaming the women for 'not fighting'? All you needed to do was make your objections clear. Men understand powerlessness when they are accused and automatically presumed guilty, the #MeToo movement is dying on its' feet and rightly so, the hysteria is finally waning.
     
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    And that's a good thing, right?
     
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    His personal behavior was known before the first election and well know for the second. Remember the infamous 60 Minutes post Suprebowl interview?

    Listen to them lie through their teeth



    That should make you sick to your stomach they way they lied and played the American people and that little bit at the end about the press.

    Did you vote to put them back into the White House?
     
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    No , I believe people but I don’t believe the bullshit you wrote. You see women as liars because you prefer to,perceive them that way
    Here you tell us you had an actual recording of her proving she wasn’t raped but it cost you $9ooo dollars...What a lousy lawyer you must’ve had but then again I’m sure it never happens and if it did I would love to hear her side
     
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    If you believe people then why don't you believe the accused as well the accuser? Legal representation is expensive, ruinously so and rich people can hire lawyers and private detectives to fight their case. By contrast the average Joe has the entire resources of the police and justice department ranged against them with only one overworked and underfunded court appointed lawyer to represent them. No one sees women as liars but do you see all men as the same?
     
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    Dozens of women have come forward accusing Trump of sexual attacks

    In Access Hollywood Tape ................ Trump himself was caught on tape

    Trump recalls talking about trying to woo a married woman.

    "I moved on her actually, she was down in Palm Beach and I failed. I’ll admit it. I did try to F##k her, she was married ... and I moved on her very heavily," Trump is heard saying.

    "I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture and I told her 'I'll show you where you can get some nice furniture,'” Trump is heard saying. “I moved on her like a bitch, and I could not get there, and she was married.
     
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    I don't see women as liars but you clearly see men as liars preferring to believe no woman could ever lie so it must be the guy who is lying.

    I guess you have never have been charged with a felony or hired an attorney for if you had you would clearly understand $9K is a deal to get the charges dropped, more so in a system where the deck is stacked against the man.
     
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    Here is a list for the head choppers to review before they restart their killing machine.

    PARTIAL LIST OF RICH, POWERFUL SEXUAL ABUSERS, HARASSERS, RAPISTS AND ENABLERS, 2017/18, 26 - 60 of 555.

    26. 10/12, Jeff Bezos accused by Rose McGowan of retaliating against rape victim
    THE DAILY MAIL, I told you he raped me: Rose McGowan says Jeff Bezos killed her TV series when she objected to Amazon bailout of Weinstein Co as streaming giant's top studio exec is accused of telling lesbian producer 'you will like my dick’, By CHRIS SPARGO. 12 October 2017. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...owan-lashes-Jeff-Bezos-says-HW-raped-her.html

    27. 10/13, George Clooney, and actor Eriq La Salle and a crew member of ER accused by Vanessa Marquez
    “Clooney helped blacklist me when I spoke up abt harassment on ER.’women who dont play the game lose career’I did,” tweeted Vanessa Marquez, who played a nurse on the show’s first three seasons.”
    “She accused actor Eriq La Salle and a crew member of being “p—sy grabbers” and said racial abuse about her Mexican heritage came from “Anthony,Noah,Julianna,” referring to cast members Anthony Edwards, Noah Wyle, and Julianna Margulies.”
    PAGE SIX, ‘ER’ actress calls out Clooney, producer in misconduct claim
    By Ruth Brown October 13, 2017.
    https://pagesix.com/2017/10/13/er-actress-calls-out-clooney-producer-in-misconduct-claim/

    28. 10/23, David O. Russell accused of groping and onset abuse
    THE DAILY BEAST, Hollywood Terror: Director David O. Russell’s History of Groping and On-Set Abuse, BY Amy Zimmerman, 10.23.17.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/holly...-russells-history-of-groping-and-on-set-abuse

    29. 11/1, Bryan Singers, director of The Usual Suspects (which featured Spacey), as well as multiple films across the X-Men franchise and the upcoming Freddie Mercury biopic, Bohemian Rhapsody. “— Justin Smith ️‍ (@Justin_C_Smith) November 1, 2017
    I never went to any of Bryan Singers “private parties”, but I guarantee the stories of the young men who say they were raped are true. I witnessed the beginning of many of these nights. I wish I would’ve loudly objected to what I saw happening. (12/14)”
    YAHOO NEWS, Producer Bryan Singer again accused of sexual misconduct, By Carly Milne, November 1, 2017.
    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/producer-bryan-singer-accused-sexual-misconduct-015929533.html

    30. 11/2, David Corn “touching female staffers and insensitive descriptions of sexual violence”
    POLITICO, David Corn investigated for inappropriate workplace behavior
    Mother Jones magazine says it looked into allegations against its D.C. bureau chief in 2014 and believes they were remedied.
    By MICHAEL CALDERONE 11/02/2017.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/02/david-corn-mother-jones-workplace-behavior-probe-244482

    31. 11/3, Jarl Mohn, who kept top editor Michael Oreskes in spite of complaints.
    THE WASHINGTON POST, Two new accusers emerge at NPR, adding to growing harassment scandal, By Paul Farhi November 3, 2017.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...0d4f04b89eb_story.html?utm_term=.c3214f8ba397


    32, 11/3, Adam Venit Sexual harassment accused by Terry Crews
    VARIETY, WME’s Adam Venit on Leave Amid Sexual Harassment Allegations Involving Actor Terry Crews (EXCLUSIVE). By Cynthia Littleton and Justin Kroll, 11/3/17.
    http://variety.com/2017/biz/news/adam-venit-terry-crews-sexual-harassment-1202605857/

    33, 11/6, David Boies hired to smear victims of sexual harassment
    LAWNEWZ. Gore Lawyer David Boies Implicated in Insane, Ornate Plot to Discredit Weinstein Accusers, by Alberto Luperon | 10:06 pm, November 6th, 2017.
    https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/go...-ornate-plot-to-discredit-weinstein-accusers/
    THE NEW YORKER, Harvey Weinstein’s Army of Spies
    The film executive hired private investigators, including ex-Mossad agents, to track actresses and journalists., By Ronan FarrowNovember 6, 2017.
    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-army-of-spiesƒrussƒ

    34. 11/9, Ben Affleck,groping MTV host Hilarie Burton during a 2003 appearance on Total Request Live. He issued an apology on Oct. 11 (USA Today List)

    35. 11/9, Dustin Hoffman, sexual harassment by Anna Graham Hunter (USA Today List)

    36. 11/9, Ethan Kath (Claudio Palmieri), 34, a songwriter and producer Crystal Castles, accused of rape by former bandmate Alice Glass (USA Today List)

    37. 11/9, Jeremy Piven, 52, a star on the TV series Entourage, accused of groping Ariane Bellamar (USA Today List)

    38. 11/9, Twiggy Ramirez (Jeordie White), bassist and guitarist of the band Marilyn Manson, accused of rape by singer Jessicka Addams (USA Today List)

    39. 11/9, Steven Seagal, “… actor and producer accused of sexual harassment by Portia de Rossi, who claims he unzipped his pants during a private office audition. ER actress Julianna Margulies also revealed an incident she had with Seagal "He made sure that I saw his gun, which I had never seen a gun in real life," … "And I got out of there unscathed... I sorta screamed my way out." (USA Today List)

    40. 11/9, Jeffrey Tambor, “actor best known for his role on Amazon's Transparent, was accused of engaging in inappropriate behavior by his former assistant, a transgender woman named Van Barnes” (USA Today List)

    41. 11/9, Bob Weinstein,”film producer and brother of Harvey Weinstein, has been accused of harassing TV producer Amanda Segel.” (USA Today List)

    42. 11/9. Ed Westwick, 30, actor, Gossip Girl, accused of rape by actress Kristina Cohen, USA TODAY, List: All of the Hollywood power players accused of sexual assault or harassment, Sara M Moniuszko, Nov. 9, 2017.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...-accused-sexual-assault-harassment/827004001/

    43. 11/10, Jann Wenner Founder Rolling Stone,
    BUZZFEED, This Writer Says Rolling Stone Founder Jann Wenner Offered Him Work In Exchange For Sex, By Mary Ann Georgantopoulos, November 10, 2017.
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/maryanngeorgantopoulos/jann-wenner?utm_term=.dsAKAKXvr#.nd7mYmGvx

    44.11/10, “Guardian, Senior Editor”, He's alleged to have put his hand underneath a female employee's shirt, on her torso and abdomen, and in the back pockets of her jeans.
    BUZZFEED, A Senior Guardian Editor Is Under Investigation Amid Sexual Harassment Allegations, 11/10/2017.
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistef...on-amid-sexual?utm_term=.erVgvgnYb#.jbqmkmVpJ

    45. 11/10, George Takei, Actor, Sexual abuse
    “A former model and actor is accusing Star Trek icon George Takei of sexual assault in 1981. The accuser, Scott R. Brunton, who was 23 at the time of the alleged incident, claims that Takei took advantage of him when he was most vulnerable.”
    THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER, George Takei Accused of Sexually Assaulting Former Model in 1981, By Ryan Parker, 11/10/2017.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-takei-accused-sexually-assaulting-model-1981-1056698

    46. 11/11, Lindsey Buckingham chokes Stevie Nicks
    “One time, during a heated argument in front of the band in 1987, Buckingham, the book says, “manhandled Stevie, slapped her face and bent her backward over the hood of his car. He put his fingers around her neck and started to choke her.”
    NEW YORK POST, Lindsey Buckingham’s abuse of Stevie Nicks detailed in new book, By Raquel Laneri, November 11, 2017.
    http://nypost.com/2017/11/11/lindsey-buckinghams-abuse-of-stevie-nicks-detailed-in-new-book/

    47. 11/14, US CONGRESS, NTK, $15 Million in Taxpayer Money Has Been Paid Out to Settle Congressional Sexual Harassment Suits, 11.14.2017.
    http://ntknetwork.com/15-million-in...settle-congressional-sexual-harassment-suits/

    48. 11/15, VICE TV, THE DAILY BEAST, ‘Unsafe and Just Plain Dirty’: Women Accuse Vice of ‘Toxic’ Sexual-Harassment Culture, The Daily Beast talked to more than a dozen former and current employees about the culture for women inside Vice Media. They spoke of harassing behavior and company indifference., BY BRANDY ZADROZNY, 11.15.17.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/unsaf...ccuse-vice-of-toxic-sexual-harassment-culture

    49. 11/19, Russell Simons/Bret Ratner together (RAPE, SEXUAL ASSAULT)
    THE LOS ANGELES TIMES, Russell Simmons and Brett Ratner face new allegations of sexual misconduct, By AMY KAUFMAN, DANIEL MILLER AND VICTORIA KIM, NOV. 19, 2017.
    http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-brett-ratner-russell-simmons-20171119-htmlstory.html

    50. 11/20, Oliver Stone, “I never really talked about it — and it was all because I had said something and embarrassed him publicly,” she said. “He wrote this special scene that he wanted me to do for him physically in the casting room, and it was humiliating and horrid.” She adds, “He got me back and it hurt.” Gilbert’s accusation against Stone is not the first. Former Playboy model Carrie Stevens claimed that the director groped her during a party. Stone has yet to respond these allegations.”
    DEADLINE.COM, Melissa Gilbert Accuses Oliver Stone Of Sexual Harassment: “It Was Humiliating And Horrid”, by Dino-Ray Ramos, November 20, 2017.
    http://deadline.com/2017/11/melissa...y-harassment-the-doors-andy-cohen-1202212904/

    51. 11/21, Bill Clinton, THE DAILY MAILY, EXCLUSIVE: Bill Clinton is facing NEW accusations of sexual assault by four women while the former president was working with a billionaire playboy and flying on his private jet nicknamed Air F**k One, claims Clinton author Ed Klein., Nov 21st 2017.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5090399/Bill-Clinton-accused-sexual-assault-four-women.html

    52. 11/21, John Conyers, BUZZFEED, “She Said A Powerful Congressman Harassed Her. Here’s Why You Didn’t Hear Her Story.
    “When you make private settlements, it doesn’t warn the next woman or the next person going into that situation.” Paul McLeod, BuzzFeed News Reporter, Lissandra Villa
    Lissandra Villa BuzzFeed News Reporter, Originally posted on November 20, 2017, at 9:45 p.m., Updated on November 21, 2017, at 8:12 a.m.
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod...n-harassed-her?utm_term=.rlAa7zkzG#.vfle8474p

    53. 11/21, John Lasseter, “Disney Animation head John Lasseter is taking a leave of absence from Pixar after acknowledging "painful" conversations and unspecified "missteps," he wrote Tuesday in a memo to staff, obtained by The Hollywood Reporter.”
    THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER, John Lasseter Taking Leave of Absence From Pixar Amid "Missteps”, By Kim Masters. 11/21/2017.
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-lasseter-taking-leave-absence-pixar-missteps-1057113

    54. 11/23, Marlon Brando, DAILY MAIL, I fought off the amorous advances of Brando, Noel Coward and Ronnie Kray (but succumbed to the Duchess of Argyll in a giant pink bath): As celebrity sex-pest allegations continue, nothing surprises showbiz veteran, By MICHAEL THORNTON, 23 November 2017.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ando-harassed-shower-says-showbiz-writer.html

    55. 11/24, Nobel Academy, “The prestigious Swedish Academy, founded in 1786, was drawn into the sex abuse net on Thursday when it announced that several members as well as members' wives and daughters had allegedly been assaulted by the well-known figure at the centre of the scandal.”
    AFP, Nobel literature academy ensnarled in #MeToo sex scandal wave, By Gaël BRANCHEREAU, Helene DAUSCHY, November 24, 2017.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nobel-literature-academy-ensnarled-metoo-sex-scandal-wave-200253494.html

    56. 11/24, Sir Richard Branson, “UK SUN, ’DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR' Virgin boss Sir Richard Branson accused of ‘motorboating’ singer by ‘burying head in her boobs’ as Joss Stone looked on Antonia Jenae described his alleged behaviour as 'disgusting' and said she 'feels like it was sexual assault’, By James Beal, US Editor, Simon Boyle, Associate Showbiz Editor, and Chloe Mayer, 24th November 2017, 10:34 pmUpdated: 25th November 2017, 10:21 am.

    (57- 65, USA Today’s list updated 11/24/17) USA TODAY, Weinstein aftermath: All the men accused of sexual misconduct, Nov. 22, 2017. | Updated 5:07 p.m. ET Nov. 24, 2017,
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-all-men-accused-sexual-misconduct/884778001/

    57. 11/24, H. W. BUSH, “Another woman accuses former President George H.W. Bush of groping her when she was just 16 years old. Josh King has the story (@abridgetoland). Buzz60
    Former Republican President George H.W. Bush has been accused by seven women of grabbing their butts. One of the women says she was 16 at the time. After the initial report Oct. 25, a Bush spokesman issued a statement of apology, saying "on occasion, he has patted women’s rears" and it was never meant to cause offense.”

    58. 11/24, Nick Carter, “Melissa Schuman, formerly of the pop group Dream, has accused Backstreet Boys' Nick Carter on Nov. 2 of raping her when she was 18. Carter denies the allegations.”

    59. 11/24, Richard Dreyfuss, “Actor Richard Dreyfuss (Jaws, Mr. Holland's Opus) was accused on Nov. 10 of sexual harassment by writer Jessica Teich. This includes him showing her his penis, she says. Dreyfuss denies exposing himself, but admitted that "at the height of my fame in the late 1970s I became an ******* – the kind of performative masculine man my father had modeled for me to be. I lived by the motto, 'If you don’t flirt, you die.' And flirt I did...But I am not an assaulter."

    60. 11/24, Alex Gilady “International Olympic Committee member Alex Gilady has been accused by two women of rape and by two others of inappropriate conduct. Gilady denied the rape accusations, said he didn't recall one of the other allegations, but acknowledged a claim he'd propositioned a woman during a job interview 25 years ago was "mainly correct." He stepped down as president of an Israeli broadcasting company he founded. The IOC has said it is looking into the allegations.
     
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    Simple it doesn't fit the #ME TOO feel sorry for me narrative.

    My attorney who is one of the best in South Florida charges $300 per hour in office and $500 per hour in court with a $3K retainer, now one might think my case would have been cleared by the video, which showed her getting partially undressed in my living room followed by her walking into my bedroom and later showed me walking out of the kitchen and into the bedroom with a glass of water in one hand and a can of soda in the other, clearly demonstrating she was not forced to go in there making it definitely consensual.

    The states first answer to the video was they will have it excluded from being entered as evidence, because she was unaware she was being recorded, fortunately for me the judge ruled since it was a home security system and the cameras where in plain view, she should have been aware she was on camera and possibly being recorded.

    Then the state agreed to lower the charge to simple assault, my attorney refused and made it clear there was more video and it was only after the ASA watched what living room channel recorded, did she agree to drop the charges entirely.

    It was a chunk of money I didn't need to spend, but I did get some of it back, we sued her for being a part of a malicious prosecution by lying under oath and were issued a default judgment because she failed to show up in court.

    But that was it for me, no more dating for almost 3 years until I met a lady who became my wife some 38 years ago.

    Prior to that happening to me I never considered that a woman would do something like she did, but I quickly learned the real world the hard way.
     
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    Women are some of the best liars I have ever met.
     
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    Human beings are great liars. Fake tears still work better for women than for men.
     
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    When statistics show one in six women have been sexually assaulted, and having been a victim, I tend to believe women. If women come forward I know how difficult it is. If there is circumstantial evidence I indeed believe the women...like 23 women describing what trump did to them
     
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    I disagree...if a man breaks down, it’s taken more seriously.When women cry we’re seeing is a overly emotional
     
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    Men are some of the best liars I have ever met ...especially the one in the White House
     
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    So he tried it on and she shot him down, big deal. No one ever thought Trump wasn't a womaniser.
     
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    One in six claim, never confirmed. Should I always believe men? And what I say still holds true, especially for rich and famous and politically controversial persons. You believe because you want to, because it suits your viewpoint, you must look at the facts and have empathy
     
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    So you know Trump eh? Friends? LOL
     
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    Perhaps we on the Right have been making this too complicated... so... here it is so that even those with a two-digit IQ can understand how justly-applied law works in Western Civilization:

    No evidence + no proof + no credible testimony = NO CRIME! :omg:

    Surely, those who are unable to grasp something so simple as that should be allowed to vote in this country.... :spin:
     
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    Men historically tend to be suckers for women's tears, but we are beginning to overcome that handicap.
    Males who cry are dismissed as crybabies. And that's a good thing.
     
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    But, but... maybe it considered itself to be a "male" in the morning, but by the afternoon it changed its mind and decided it was a "female"! Then, maybe by the next day, it was back to considering itself to be a "male" again.

    These things used to be easy to comprehend -- and then radical Democrats decided to 're-think' everything about REALITY....

    [​IMG]. "This morning I was "Buck"... but this afternoon I'm "Becky"! Get used to it or I'll CRY!" :cynic:
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    She looks like a soccer player.
     
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