Trump's Raids are meant to terrorize Americans. So I decided to help stop this.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    So you are an advocate stop and drop citizenship and open borders, lovely :)
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to an ICE agent on HLN,they are deporting those who were ordered to leave by a judge.
     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They sure are.... And I much sooner keep them than I'd keep all these white supremacists that pollute our country lately. I'd target them for deportation.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They are not. They are trampling on the rights of these Americans.. As I said above, I'd much rather have them than all the ****nazis that pollute our nation. I'd start by deporting those.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They're not criminals.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course not. It merely puts them under the Constitution of the United States. While we're at it, I don't know a lot of people in favor of "open borders." whatever that means, or automatic citizenship. No, my friends and I believe in legal immigration, green cards, naturalization and all the legal routes.

    The truth is, we have a tough problem and, unless you count waving ones arms, we don't really have any good ideas on what to do about it. So it festers and worsens as bad ideas are applied. I especially like the genius that thought up, let's cut the aid to the countries are fleeing. JHC!

    Here's an idea (and I'm serious) these two or three county's citizens are invading America so let's do what will get results. Declare war on them and invade. Sweep up the garbage, clean up the corruption, beef up law enforcement, then leave.
     
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    Yes they are enforcing the law and nothing more.
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    Eh, I don't believe "American" is a separate category from "American citizen." Does the State Department or any other government agency recognize that distinction, or is it something you made up?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fine. Get a an order by a judge and have them deported.
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    So your solution is Imperialism? I think that's been discredited.
     
  11. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    We have about the same probability of building a Death Star as we do of building a Wall.

    Where the f...hell did you get the idea that I support open borders?

    I care when illegal aliens kill innocent Americans, and I care when White Supremacists kill innocent Americans. So if we're going to punish the whole lot, I say we start with the latter. They kill more!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Americans!!!!
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's only "imperialism" if you intend to occupy - we wouldn't. Was WWII Imperialism by the U.S.? Use that as your model. Imperialism is not in our DNA. Drain the swamp then leave. I mean, they're an "invading hoard," right?

    I'm really sick of hearing about this whining BS by the right and left. Man up America! Grow a spine! That means you Trump. Or do you just get off on beating up little kids?
     
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    Yes they are.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Then they will have no problem showing a warrant.

    Read the OP!!!!
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't consider your OP an authority on anything. It comes down to who I should be believe: An ICE agent or a bunch of reporters or people who are about to be deported.
     
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    Illegals kill more
     
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    The past 30 years? No, the past 70 years.
    Dumb.
    Geez, so little imagination...

    Create a national ID patterned on the Nexus Pass that's tied to a database where the government can pull a work visa in an electronic flash. The ID can double as a Social Security card. It can be designed to be read with a smart phone. Every employer, even of domestics or day labor, would be required by law to check the ID to make sure the person is a citizen or has a work visa. Get caught hiring an illegal? A nasty fine. Get caught hiring a bunch of illegals? Jail.

    No need to screw with walls except at strategic locations. No jobs, no reason to stay ... we don't have to spend a lot of energy rounding 'em up.
    Uh oh. Too much Fox News. Careful your head doesn't explode.
    Get a clue. We don't enforce the laws because employers (jokers like Trump) want cheap labor.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/us/trump-workers-fired.html

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/trump-e-verify-fox-news-makes-it-too-hard-to-hire-the-undocumented.html
     
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    The op is fictitious partisan crap
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    Trump trots out gubermint toadies and you believe them automatically? :roflol:
     
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    The same people who support sanctuary cities now expect private industry to do the job of the federal government? That's pathetic. The most successful companies would be the sanctuary companies. What about the privacy issues for citizens in this massive ID plan? Why should private companies be doing the job of the federal government? Secure the border, that has to be the first step, then remove illegal aliens here. May as well go after those that rent to illegal aliens, without homes, they won't hold jobs, then they'll go home, or at the least to the streets of L.A. or SF...
     
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    I always see "American Citizen". The Constitution always makes the distinction by adding "citizen" to .whatever word they use.
     
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  23. LangleyMan

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    Best we get the real stuff from Fox News or from the Orange Oaf's tweets? Talk about low information voters--you Trumpites take the prize.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. As opposed to a bunch of reporters or someone who is trying to keep from being deported.

    As far as I know, Trump did not trot him out.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was a test performed on current events in 2012. Republicans beat democrats hands down.
     

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