UN, singles out Israel as world’s only violator of women’s rights

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  1. Zorro

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    This is just a vehicle for the same folks that hate us to hate Israel.

    AOC IMPLIES MUSLIMS LACK FREE WILL: AOC says Palestinians ‘have no choice but to riot’ against Israel as she agrees with radio host that the country is ‘criminal.’
     
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    You must be thinking of someone else. I didn't actually say that.

    He is, however, a completely untrustworthy source who will lie without a second thought. Perhaps he doesn't even know it is lying any more. Maybe he thinks that if he believes something it must be true.
     
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    The United Nations is the Tyranny Caucus.
     
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    Note that my assertion was that Israel's goals were "unstated" in official circles and based on observation. The Zionist goal has always been clear to anyone who has read or understands the background and history.

    Although you appear not to understand what unstated means, I still tried to supply you with quotes from Ben Gurion from his letters and published accounts and from Netanyahu's own stated policy of annexing the West Bank entirely.

    I already did copy and paste the quotes. I'm not engaging in your semantic word games anymore. You know full well the intention of my original statement and have been unable to say anything to refute it.
     
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    Not at the time when we had out Geneva Conventions or the UN. Hence the Jew state is being condemned.
     
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    You are wrong because Jordan did not cede the WB to Israel. It removed itself from any claims to the WB and King Hussain declared the PLO to be legal representative of the Palestinians to form an independent state in the West Bank and other territories and for Israel and the PLO to negotiate a peaceful solution.

    In 1967 UNSC resolution 242 called for Israel to withdraw from all the territories it occupied in the war. The UNSC, the International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly and practically every UN member nation with the possible exception of the US all consider the West Bank to be occupied territory and therefore under the jurisdiction of the 4th Geneva convention on the treatment of civilians in occupied territories - a convention which Israel has been repeatedly in violation of.

    Now please provide one single scrap of documentation that says Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israel or any document in international law that shows the West Bank is Israel territory.
     
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    “If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones."

    I don't go making stuff up, though looking at the quote above from Deuteronomy, it appears you do quite liberally.

    I generally don't go reading religious texts to try and find archaic passages in order to vilify people of religion. Not my thing. I doubt Muhammads biography would be illegal in a porno or the most vile book ever written but you clearly find it so.

    You know what they say about opinions.

    If I was so interested, I would rather read scholarly interpretations of the life of Mohammed rather than the screeching of yet another Islamophobe writing anonymously on the internet. I probably don't like the most extreme forms of Islam any better than you do but I also understand where they come from and how those forms of Islam have been nurtured and even armed by those who would use religious fanaticism for their own political and economic ends - clearly something you don't know anything of because you are bought into and fixated on the fear and hate of the current political climate which feeds on fear and hate like raw meat......

    In fact, I did read a couple of biographies and histories of Muhammad back in the day but they were nothing like what you are trying to present as I remember. But as I said religion is not my thing. I'm far more interested in actual history which is why I know about the Jews were treated with tolerance back in the caliphate days after the 7th century conquest even as they fled from persecution in Europe.

    As for whatever it is you are doing on this forum, you're quite right, pulling quotes out of context to demonize a whole faith is a subject I know little about.

    I'll leave that to you. I'd rather try to build understanding of other faiths and people even if they are different that I.:)
     
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    Lol:brushteeth:

    Yeah, international law is tyranny alright.......

    Why? They won't approve certain members doing whatever the hell they want or attacking anyone they want?

    What would you propose instead?
    Anarchy? Every country just acts like the toughest kid on the block?

    That'll work well..........
     
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    The 'actions' which led to the problems in the area today were the wars against Israel, the ongoing terrorist attacks, and the constant propaganda against Israel and it's people. Only the last two can be undone but neither will happen.
     
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    Not in parts in the world they also occupy.
     
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    LOLOL

    You claimed you would quote Christian quotes.
    I even posted so you would not do this.

    Christian, not Jewish.

    and then you post Jewish quotes.

    Christian is from the New Testament, not the old.
    Please try again.

    Post something Christian like you said you would.
     
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    If infact you were really interested you would not read any interpretations of Muhammed.
    There are 2 biographies.
    These are the only 2 sources on planet earth.
    why would you even go to someones "interpretation" unless you were looking for something phony.
    And these are written very plainly, there in no need for interpretation.

    And you don't even know what context is.
    If you had an intelligent argument., I would put everything into context as close as possible.
    Who wrote it.
    When it was written
    What book it is in
    where in the chronology
    Who was the audience.
    What else was happening at the time.

    context for you, is a word that means "excuse".

    The sirat rasual allah. and the history of Al Taburi,
    Are the only sources for Muhammed from that time frame on planet earth.
    Even Bukhari is 100 years later.
    The companions of Muhammed are phoney,
    Supposed to be from people who knew him, but were written in the 10th to 12th century.

    Now what did you read to learn about Muhammed.
    There are lots of 21st century phony books.
     
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    Typical zionistic lies. They took that stuff to repair their house. The Jews refuse to let them have concrete etc, because they might make a bomb out of it.
     
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    No, they use concrete to make tunnels, not bombs.
    You don't know anything about this I see. so just make stuff up..
     
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    You committed ad hom fallacy .. you attacked Chomsky rather than attack what he said. Regardless of the rest of your gibberish demonization rant that much is true.

    So why don't you back up your claim and post what he said in relation to the OP that you think is wrong.
     
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    Bullsh-t.
    They look and see what comes in, because if they do not, rockets and bombs come in from Iran.
    They also bring in truckloads of welfare every day.

    BTW, The Pallies are the best dressed Muslims of all of them.
    where do you think they get the clothes.
     
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    pfff...
    https://maps.southfront.org/israeli-forces-ban-fuel-and-gas-from-entering-gaza-strip/

    So when the Jew makes a child sleep on the floor, because it banned mattresses, no blanket to sleep under because the Jew banned that too, hardly got clothing because the Jew banned that too, got no books to read and learn... because again the Jew banned that too. Than it's obvious the Jew is teaching those children that they are there to hate. And when they learn that their civilian population has been ethnically cleansed by the 100.000's so they can live on their land. It's really does make them want to go for that stand your ground idea that them Americans have.
     
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    LOLOL
    You didn't even read it.
    First of all it has nothing to do with blankets, like you said it was, but flammable articles during an uprising.

    and what is the Jew teaching.
    They don't post the bullsh-t tv shows, the Pallies do that.

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...1D5CE4F7D269E6EC92361D5CE4F7D269E6E&FORM=VIRE
     
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    And thus, you cannot support your therefore meaningless claim.
    Thank you
     
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    Did you read the treaty?
    Where was the Jordan/Isreal borde rin April 1967?
    Where is the current border between Israel and Jordan?
    Where is the WB in relation to those two borders?
    If you need, I can post pictures - they wont be in crayon, however.
    The 1994 treaty renders this irrelevant, as Jordan gave up its claim on the territory - and in fact ceded it to Israel.
    As Jordan no longer claims the territory, there is no controversy under international law, and 242 is rendered moot.
    You said you are aware of the 1994 treaty, which I already cited.
    When you read said treaty, you will read the documentation and the international law you asked for.
     
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    Somebody has posted in this thread something about quotes taken out of context in order to demonize...to which I'll add the oldie but goodie "put your money where your mouth is".

    Have you read the documents from which these supposed Ben Gurion quotes were taken? No, you did not, otherwise you'd have noted at least one of them (I only checked one) is false.

    The alleged quote from Ben Gurion's 1937 letter to his son is fake. Here's the whole letter:
    https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/the-ben-gurion-letter/

    Here's a genuine quote:
    It's quite clear that Ben Gurion was talking about those Arabs who would have opposed Jewish settlement in parts of Palestine allotted by partition to Jews. It is also crystal clear that he did not want to expel Arabs. or fight them.

    Your sources lie and deceive.

    You're welcome.

    Egypt doesn't blockade Gaza for the US. It blockades Gaza because Hamas is an offshoot of Muslim Brotherhood, an organization that has been in conflict with Egyptian authorities for decades. Young Yasser Arafat had been arrested in Egypt for being a Brotherhood sympathizer. An Egyptian court has banned in 2014 Muslim Brotherhood members from running in presidential and parliamentary elections. Egyptian authorities fear Hamas.
     
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    Trump is a stain on America's history for sure
     
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    Ha ha ha.
    I like it.
    Gazans can't feed themselves - smashed up all the greenhouses the Jews left them.
    As for concrete - they weren't making concrete bombs (what's that?) but treating it
    as "dual use", ie domestic and military. That's how they lined those expensive tunnels
    that wormed their way into southern Israel (and built with the bodies of Arab children.)
     
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    And in the Middle Ages there wouldn't have been such persecution against Jews
    if only they would stop killing Christian children to put their blood in the matzo
    bread.
    And there wouldn't have been such persecution against Jews if they hadn't have
    killed Jesus.
    And there wouldn't have been persecution if only the Jews, like all other minorities
    in Europe, had simply converted to the One Truth Church.

    Look - the idea of hating Jews because of Israel is a recent one. There's two reasons
    why people persecute Jews
    1 - Jews remain Different
    2 - Jews are more successful
     

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