Harris: judge not qualified because he's Catholic.

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably about the same as when Trump condemned a federal judge because he was a Mexican and unfit for the judgeship.
     
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    Actually, the US Constitution is the result of much debate among secular humanists. The Founding Fathers weren't so religious.
     
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  3. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem with having a radical secularist on the court is you’re going to have a pro-abortion vote on the court.
     
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    Says the people linked to Farrakhan and Hamas.
     
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    John Fitzgerald Kennedy - Knight of Columbus

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  6. Texas Republican

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    I used to say Kennedy would no longer be welcome in the Democratic Party today. But after the trashing Obama took at the Democratic debate last night, it looks like even Obama is too far right for this year’s leftist loons.
     
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    Catholics should not be voting for Dems in the first place; but vast numbers do anyway. If they cannot see by now that primarily the Left is anti-Christian in general and anti-Catholic specifically then nothing is going to open their eyes short of the sort of oppression that eventually wakes up even the totally dense.
     
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    Psst . . . in order to be a member of the Knights of Columbus you HAVE to be Catholic. Sigh!
     
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    Actually, yes it does, since the Knights of Columbus officially upholds the values of Catholicism. If the political Left is trying to fool Catholics in that respect, then they need to try harder . . . of tell it to Catholics who mostly know nothing about Catholicism and its various organizations.
     
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    The problem with having a leftist judge is on issues like abortion, you're going to have an Pro-Murder of Babies bias in the court system. There . . . fixed it. No charge.
     
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    Wrong, the Constitution is the result of much debate between Christians, and Christian I influenced Deists.

    They were absolutely Not secular humanists.
     
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    The answer is no in killing the Catholic vote for Democrats. Americans have a short memory, unless Harris is the Democratic nominee, this will be long forgotten. Trump won all religious groups except the Jewish vote. I don't see that changing in 2020. There is a perception that the Democrats are anti-religious among the very religious, that I doubt will change either.

    Trump won the Catholic vote by four points over Hillary, which is just below the historical average of the 6% Catholic's usually vote for the Republican. Since 1972 Catholics have voted for the Democratic nominee only three times. 1976, 92 and 96.
     
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    Most of the writers were deists. Yes. And their beliefs indeed coloured the result, hence things like slavery and the 3/5ths clause etc. We respect them in spite of those errors, not because of them.

    The us is a secular government. Period. If you're making a legal ruling pull your personal bullshit out of it. Period. Or youre not a competent jurist.
     
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    Most Catholics like most protestants are know nothings. Not hard to slip by.

    Moreover: she questioned whether he could keep his personal beliefs separate from the law. That's a fair question.

    There are many things to dog Harris for, this isnt one of them nor is the title quote an actual thing that happened so you just look silly.
    I think the bitch needs a dirt nap and I think you look silly for trying such an obvious deception.
     
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    He didn't say that. He said he thought the Judge was bias against him because of his hispanic roots, and then candidate Trump's views on border security.

    another false narrative by the left
     
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    Yes i agree that is the job of the judge to determine if laws match up with the constitution.

    However we do not have and were never intended to have a secular government.
    We have a representative government.
    If an area has a large Christian base then they may elect a representative that is going to use his religious background to represent those people.
    The idea that we are supposed to have a secular government is wrong.
    The only thing we cannot do is establish a state religion.

    And for the purposes of constitutionality secular humanism is a religion.

    You forcing secular humanism on me is no different than me forcing Christianity on you.
     
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    Now you leave the Pedestos and the Clintons out of this....
     
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    LOL... yup. Except I might characterize it slightly differently. AGW is their religion, and government is their compensation for otherwise not being able to convince anyone .....
     
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    Holy cr&p... what happens when Kamala learns that La Raza and the Knights are like the same organization???
     
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    So essentially religious people can write thr constitution but cannot interpret it. Got it..
    Another reason i cannot in good conscience vote Democrat.
     
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    Art VI of the United States Constitution states that all members of Govt shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation to support the US Constitution, but no religious test shall ever be required....it seems Harris is not only in violation of the Constitution but also her Oath of Office and is unqualified to have her seat
     
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    "Deep State Journal" would have pretty good SEO, wouldn't it? Goes to show that Google is not in any way biased against your alt-right fake news despite the recent allegations.

    Of course, it is also obvious that the nominee's being Catholic per se had nothing to do with the criticisms, but rather his being in a specifically anti-abortion, anti-homosexual organization, the Knights of Columbus.

    Meanwhile, the Muslim Congresswoman the alt-right have taken to attacking on a regular basis is much more liberal. Many Catholics are likewise much more liberal. In fact, consulting the Book of Knowledge (Wikipedia), I see that,
    According to the Pew Research Center, Catholics represent 30.5% of the United States Congress as of January 2019. There are 141 Representatives and 22 Senators that are Catholic, which split as 99 Democrats and 64 Republicans.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_politics_in_the_United_States

    How do you like that? More Democrats than Republicans are Catholic.
     
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    No, she does not want Catholics or any one who holds such staunch religious views on abortion. The KOC are one our Catholics leading groups in the fight against abortion. While many catholics acknowledge abortion as a sin not all view it as murder of a person. The KOC like many hardcore religious groups oppose abortion as a right.

    I think it is quite a leap to opposing a nominee from a subset of a group with such strong beliefs that oppose your own beliefs.
    Do you think she would allow Sotomayor to be nominated?
     
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    We do have, and were always intended to have, a secular government. See establishment clause.
    Using your religious beliefs as justification for a law violates the establishment clause.

    I'm not forcing secular humanism on you as a belief nor am I denying you your right to practise your religion. I'm denying you the ability to dictate law to the rest of us from the seat of your religion, as the establishment clause clearly lays out.
    Nor am I a secular humanist, I'm a Christian.

    Can you separate your personal beliefs from the law is a fair question to ask a potential judge.
     
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    I agree but here is how it works.

    1. People elect representatives based in part on their values.
    2. Those people make the best decisions they can using thoes values

    3 if the representatives overstep their bounds the courts regulate them.
     

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