Active Shooter Situation In El Paso, TX, Police Have 'Reports Of Multiple Shooters'

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  1. MelKor

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    This is typical NRA Gun nut logic...Enact reasonable gun restrictions....Equals banning guns.....These people are Gun Nut fanatics
     
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    So australia is a racist nation according to you.

    Got it
     
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    ok let’s go deep into the capabilities of our law enforcement. Let say we ban guns ( but I believe in home protect your safe space). That means less guns are made and no more bullets will be made. So it’s not unreasonable to assume if lawmakers and enforces crack down on arms dealers illegal weapons in this country would be fewer. It’s like saying I won’t do anything with sex trafficking because there is always a source. Focus on the threat, establish the common factor, and Pursue the goal. But all we have is blame. Well blacks do this and whites do this so they both need guns. Again show me a mass knifing in America.
     
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    No one has proposed REASONABLE restrictions.

    Furthermore history shows it is inevitably a slippery slope. They will never have enough regulations until the people are disarmed.
     
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    The history of America.
     
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    People in Baltimore get shot on a regular basis. Odds of getting shot are pretty minimal I believe in all but the urban areas.

    I do know someone (family member) who was recently hit by a [amish] woman in MD who red a red light. The woman pulled out a cell phone and announced see she would call her boyfriend to F up my family member. A large Amish man pulled up ten minutes later and jumped out of his car with hostile intent as the police arrived. Would you not want a gun in this situation?

    What are the odds of being shot by a person with no criminal record and a concealed carry permit? I would say the odds are astronomical.
     
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    Every nation
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Was the shooter an illegal immigrant ?


    Or a white supremist?




    :) No, I asked two questions....one of which (bolded in blue above ) NO one has been able to answer :) Including you..... :)
     
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    Hardly...They just don't tolerate angry white bigots preaching their love of trump and the NRA...Not now...Not ever
     
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    Gun Nut logic paranoia
     
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    Like I said racist and now also fascist.

    Thanks for acknowledging the racism of the ozzies

    We are a superior nation were all citizens even bigots have the freedom of speech and that freedom is protected by the right to bear arms
     
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    Nope

    Logical proven fact you cannot refute
     
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    Your question, in blue, was, "Was the shooter an illegal immigrant ?" (your Post #656)

    Truth? I don't for an iron-clad fact that this guy was a citizen of the U. S. or not -- BUT -- everything we know about him to this point suggests that he is, indeed, a citizen of the United States, and that he was born here, too, thus not "naturalized".
     
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    https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/gun-control-australia-updated/. I can source differently countries if you like. My point of having just home protection would further degrade those numbers but I want to add something else bio metrics will ensure the gun owners safety from accidents at home and if you beat your wife no gun.
     
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    You have an "or" between them. A false choice.
     
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    I'm not angry, didn't vote for Trump and don't own a gun nor a member of the NRA your bigoted comments notwithstanding.
     
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    Just one more instance of horrific firearm carnage in America, but let's not forget that gunsters in Texas have just had a legislative year that makes their nipples hard.

    Despite having suffered fatal wounds via its now-exposed scandals, internal rancor, corruption, and fat cats fleecing members to support their lavish lifestyles, the North American Man/Gun Love Association had its last hurrah in the Lone Gunman state as it goes down with guns blazing, as permissiveness is now in Americans' sights.
     
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    Will do when you can promise me thugs won't be able to kill people by buying guns off the dark web or other underground sources. When our government is more concerned keeping our borders secure from terrorists and thugs allowed to walk across. When they get serious with cleaning up neighborhoods from gangs and drugs facilitating the problem. When they work in concert between parties for the actual betterment of society passing and enforcing stricter crime legislation and follow the constitution as written. When they stop electing corrupt judges such as those on the 9th circuit to rule in favor of lawbreakers.

    Until then, they can't or shouldn't be allowed to strip the average American of their rights to defend themselves and their families basically turning them into lambs to be slaughtered.
     
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    So the single woman wakes up hearing a sound as someone breaks into her home should not even be able to have a .22 for protection?
     
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    Is that a no?
     
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    Here is the real reason. If you want to take the guns away, you are going to need to bring in the armed forces in to take them away. There isn't a chance in hell that conservatives are going to give up their guns without first having a war. Given that the majority of the military is conservative, the military itself would fracture in that war. You need to understand this because this is the fundamental truth. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET THE GUNS SHORT OF MASSIVE CATASTROPHIC VIOLENCE.
     
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    How many migrants that have been arrested and then tortured had guns on them?
     
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    This is the problem the established law allows for everyone to get whatever they want in the form of guns. But if the law changes because it’s becomes a problem people are ready to kill with said guns. Sounds like another issue that needs to be addressed. That people with guns have and are willing to kill civilians and law enforcement just because they feel they are right. Just because an object is deemed unnecessary. That is really troubling and proves the opposition of guns point.
     
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    You on the radical Left are 'enjoying this too much'! I'm a devout Right-wing fiscal Conservative -- but, if found guilty in a fair trial, I want this Crusius creep to be put into a super-slow-moving TRASH COMPACTOR, and for video clips to be made of it for all the world to see -- over and over. We on the Right do not (NOT) approve of or condone crime of any kind, and MASS MURDER!

    But you on the Left take tragedies like this, and the one at Dayton, and try to leverage a perverted, unconstitutional idea that the ENTIRE COUNTRY of all of us owners of firearms should lose our abilities to DEFEND ourselves from the same kind of lousy, creep bastards who commit these CRIMES! That is the point where we part ways -- and we will fight you endlessly over this! Short of changing the Constitution, you simply CANNOT DO THAT! Get it through your heads!

    If you want to suggest REASONABLE methods to eliminate "criminals and crazies" from ever owning, possessing, or using firearms, then I, for one, am more than willing to listen and compromise if what you have to say makes sense. But just taking our weapons away and making us vulnerable to criminals and insane monsters of ANY kind isn't going to get it!
     
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    Gee, you think you have a point. Congrats. Still not taking our guns.
     
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