Ask your difficult questions of an Atheist.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Why do peace and love Christians attack atheists ???
     
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    What was the intent behind it? Was it being done purposefully to inflict emotional harm?? Did it happen as a result of people immigrating here illegally, thus the illegal immigrants more or less brought the unfortunate circumstances upon themselves since they broke USA immigration laws??

    I can't give you a sweeping answer to a vague generalization...
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    I am a Christian.

    I am not attacking you.
     
  4. xwsmithx

    xwsmithx Well-Known Member

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    That's your interpretation, not necessarily others'.

    I once had this thought in relation to God... if God is outside of space, he must also be outside of time, since our universe is a four dimensional space-time continuum. This would explain how God could be eternal and timeless, since time doesn't pass for God, it only passes for us. It would also explain how God could be everywhere and nowhere at once, since being outside of the universe, he can look in at any point and at any time. But it would also explain that 99% of what goes on on planet earth is essentially ignored by God, since it's a blip on the radar for God. One person's life is a fraction of a millisecond in time to God. It may seem important to you, but to God, your life is practically irrelevant.
     
  5. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    That’s easy....an invisible man in the sky went “poof” and everything was created. And how did the earth travel around the sun? We know that it was a God in a chariot. And then we had gods that explained other things that we didn’t understand
     
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    It simply means that 15% of the population are well informed and 43% are blatantly ignorant. The rest fall somewhere in between.
     
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  7. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The Bible gives an example of animal evolution.
     
  8. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    Why do peace and love Christians attack atheists ???




    I did NOT say you were. Why so defensive ? :)

    Christians DO attack atheists.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Why does one worship such a nasty angry mean cruel unjust deity ???




    :) I knew I wouldn't get an answer to the question bolded above.....and I didn't....just more excuses for a god who claimed he knows when every sparrow falls...


    Pretty heartless, cold and unloving to have made creatures and then abandon them to the whims of the earth he allegedly created....
     
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    Nice that you have such a high opinion of your fellow citizens.
     
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    I outlined the case in a previous post why death is necessary to life. Imagine a species that is both a) immortal and b) reproducing. It wouldn't take long before the number of that species used up every available source of nutrients (food). In order for the next generation to eat, either the previous generation would have to die and release the nutrients back into the ecosystem or the next generation would have to eat the previous generation in order to gain the nutrients they need. Either way, the previous generation has to die. It may be heartless, cold, and unloving, but that's the nature of life. Think about a species of fish that was immortal and reproducing. How long before they filled the oceans with just that one species of fish? Soon all the food would be gone and they would either starve or turn on each other, and death would return and so would the balance. This is true, God or no God. You want to know why God doesn't release a child in a cage, my question is why do you blame God for what men do? Why is it God's fault that the child is in a cage? Why do you call God nasty angry mean cruel and unjust when it's men who are nasty, angry, mean, cruel, and unjust? You want to believe men are basically good and God is basically evil when just the opposite is true, men are basically evil and God is basically good. (Not Allah, he's a downright evil, murderous bastard.)
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    FoxHastings said:
    Why does one worship such a nasty angry mean cruel unjust deity ???

    :) I knew I wouldn't get an answer to the question bolded above.....and I didn't....just more excuses for a god who claimed he knows when every sparrow falls...

    Pretty heartless, cold and unloving to have made creatures and then abandon them to the whims of the earth he allegedly created....



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    LOL! Now you are bringing up death, which I NEVER MENTIONED so it's just another squirm.











    My goodness, he obviously has no talent and created a horribly flawed product !!!!!! Sheesh creating EVIL men so others have to suffer, other INNOCENT creatures...!!! DEPLORABLE!!!!



    I guess even god has no sense of personal responsibility .



    BTW, WHERE did you get all this foolishness about god and how irresponsible he is?

    Does he speak directly to you???


    Have you heard his voice??? ;)
     
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    The problem is, the Bible doesn’t acknowledge that we are of the animal kingdom.
     
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    What do you call it when our life expectancy has doubled with the advent of evolutionary factors used in medical science and 43% of the people who are advantaged by it, don't get it, support it or seem to understand it. Ignorance (definition)- lack of knowledge or information.
    Yup, they’re ignorant. You got a better term ?
     
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    Why is that a problem for a god who can feed the multitudes with but a few fish and bread loaves.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My interest is peeked...please explain?
     
  17. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The Bible refers to Gentiles as animals, beasts, dogs, and swine.

    Evolution =

    Wisdom 19:18-21 (CEB) = 18 If we are careful to observe events, we can see just how the elements of the universe are transformed. It’s the same transformation that happens when someone changes the sounds that a harp makes by changing the key while continuing to play the same melody. 19 In this way, land animals were changed into underwater creatures, while animals that swam in the waters now moved onto the land. 20 Fire was able to burn on the open water, while water forgot that it was supposed to put fire out.21 Flames no longer burned the exposed flesh of living beings, who were able to walk through the flames. Flames didn’t even melt the frostlike crystals that were a kind of food of everlasting life.
     
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    If I had the ability to save a drowning child but instead stood by and watched it die in agony, what would you think of me? God does that all the time with tsunami’s and famine’s and earthquakes. He is either not omnipotent or he is a sadist
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Suppose you are the mother of several young kids and you see an unknown child drowning. Would you risk your life to save the stranger and leave your children without their mother?
     
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    If I was omnipotent I would be able to save all the children.Are you saying that if God made some rain so children don’t die of starvation in Africa he would be risking something? God is either not omnipotent or God is a sadist.
     
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    So God is risking “his” life saving millions from tsunamis.
    We thought that believers felt their God was all powerful.
     
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    So, non Jews are animals and Jews are not ? Oh what a tangled web we weave.
     
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    What rubbish. Life expectancy has doubled with advances in medical science. That has nothing to do with evolutionary factors. Evolutionarily speaking, we should have 3/4 of us die before age 5 and a life expectancy of 40. Science defies evolution by keeping alive the least fit of us.
     
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    Dayum, you people make me dredge up teachings from what seems like a 100 years ago.

    God put people in Eden, and people violated God, and were banished to the earth.

    Fortunately God didnt draw and quarter them, or put them in the electric chair or hang them like we do to each other.
    You mean humans? Seems to me they had their chance and blew it.
    Again the teachings go that God works through JC as a proxy, which means you get nothing what so ever from God but through JC.
    I suppose God's position would be that they have brains and if they are to stupid and live where they know damn well tsumanis will wipe them out its their problem.

    Clearly neoatheists want God to completely wipe out free will, and thinking for yourselves and dictate every nuance of everything in your lives to protect you from yourselves.

    I have to laugh at all the God blaming atheists do, when they dont even have the teachings correct. Yes if you want bullshit for your difficult questions ask a neoatheist.
    yep the babylonian talmud

    I am not making a theist argument for the existence if God btw, only pointing out how grossly uneducated neoatheists are on religious matters, both their own and others.
     
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  25. xwsmithx

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    Or he doesn't exist. I would point out once again, I'm an atheist. I'm doing my best to answer your questions based on my 29 years as a believer. So, you, FoxHastings, brought up suffering, the most extreme form of which is death, hence my discussion of death. And you, Renee, brought up the problem of evil, which thousands of philosophers have struggled with for thousands of years and haven't been able to answer, so why do you expect me to answer?

    Legally speaking, you have no duty to rescue. You will be charged with murder if you drown a child, but if you stand by and watch a child drown, you are not legally responsible. The same principle could be extended to God. God is under no duty to save you. God does not owe you anything simply because you're here.
     

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