Merkel wants a german Aircraft carrier

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    Most countries didn't choose either side. It was a civil war after all. For Germany it was natural to choose the fascists, since they were fascists themselves, plus they had lot of new weapons to test.
     
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    You would prefer Franco of course.
     
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    Which ones ?
     
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    The spaniards i know Honor Franco. He is quite popular there
     
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    KdF, free housing ect
     
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    Just as the Russians still celebrate Stalin for kicking Nazi asses. :)
     
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    Stalin ****ed them more than hitler
     
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    But you know KdF was a serious money maker and rebuilt the tourist industry in Germany.
    Free housing ?
     
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    What about all the socialist programs installed by Hitler prior to the wars he prosecuted?
     
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    Socialism = Government ownership and operation of means of production.

    Nazis relied on private companies when it came to means of production. Have you ever seen Schindlers List? He was small beans compared to the German corporations who made a fortune selling stuff to the military machine.

    What socialist programs are you referring to? Someone said "public works" such as the highway system, but every country invests in infrastructure, and in Hitlers case even that was designed to support his upcoming war efforts.
     
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    People like you of America crave Government control.

    It is the final product not merely the issue you have that creates socialism.

    Adolf gave his people a lot of goodies. That is the socialism i speak of. He even allowed some of the Rich to believe they ran their own company. But they took orders from Hitler.
     
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    What I am referring to is the massive programs of Hitler to manage Germany's economy. This included paid vacations for Germans using Government money. Filling their bank accounts using German Government money. Things like what FDR emulated.
     
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    No, but you probably do.

    I asked you to explain what you meant, and you failed, not that you even knew the definition of socialism. The private German corporations couldn't be happier having a customer like Hitler and his war machine. Same with US. They LOVE war, because the money is coming in through doors and windows. Ask Halliburton.
     
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    NATIONAL SOCIALIST

    It even has it in its name. Free vacation for workers, free housing, free food distribution.

    Evry form of socialism is vermin.
     
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    This is how Franco is celebrated in Spain in 2019

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    Tomb from Franco

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    Before talking bullshit, you should talk to people from there.

    Many in Spain see Franco as good. Just as many in Chile still hail Augusto Pinochet.

    Evrything is better than Communism or Socialism
     
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    I am sorry you do not truly understand socialism. I told you the firms were run by Hitler. Even his free goodies to the German population can't persuade you of his socialism?

    Why do you defend socialism?
     
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    I happen to know Germans didn't get a free house and free food, so please spare me from the BS.
     
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    Many of the countries that were behind the iron curtain after WW2 want NATO to stay relevant.
     
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    The more you post the more ignorant you appear.

    Yes they had welfare programs for those in hard times, as did all other European countries.

    I have said nothing to defend it, I only explained to you what it was: Government ownership of means of production.
     
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    Until the British F-35 B's come on line the British carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth will have U.S. Marine Corps F-35 B's deployed on the carrier.

     
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    My grandparents and other workers got free houses in Hildburghausen. It was special hosing programs for young people and workers as well as service staff.
     
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    BS!

    Because mighty Russia supported Serbia, Austria-Hungary waited to declare war until its leaders received assurance from German leader Kaiser Wilhelm IIthat Germany would support their cause. Austro-Hungarian leaders feared that a Russian intervention would involve Russia’s ally, France, and possibly Great Britain as well.

    On July 5, Kaiser Wilhelm secretly pledged his support, giving Austria-Hungary a so-called carte blanche or “blank check” assurance of Germany’s backing in the case of war. The Dual Monarchy of Austria-Hungary then sent an ultimatum to Serbia, with such harsh terms as to make it almost impossible to accept.
     
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    So you do not think the that Hitler controlled the means of production. i consider that a defense of socialism.
     
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    Putin has benefitted from the brainwashing East German's received during the cold war. Most are now pro-Russia and anti-America.
     

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