French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson dies at 89

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  1. FreshAir

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    agree, sad that innocent Germans died, but that was also Hitler's fault

    I would also say the citizens not stopping Hitler from killing Jews in gas chambers also bear some of the blame, but I am sure many of the citizens also feared speaking out against Hitler as his supporters were like a cult
     
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    Actually, an ADL study found that far more people reject the standard holocaust narrative than have been duped into believing its inflated statistics and grisly fantasies:

    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    The reason people reject the fraudulent holocaust narrative has nothing to do with "hating Jews". It is simply that they've outgrown Allied propaganda fables, are able to reject "Groupthink", think independently and recognize the physical impossibilities or rounding up, executing 6 million people and making their remains disappear from the face of the earth(1), (2)

    "Hate" has nothing to do with refusing to believe the for-profit & proven, fraudulent Holocaust Industry's(3) hoaxes about "human skin lampshades", human fat "soap", homicidal steam chambers, "Conveyor Belts of Death"(4), recently invented vaporizers, non existent homicidal gas chambers, and outrageous "survivor stories"(5), (6).

    The holocaust is the only historical event on the planet that cannot withstand open debate & honest examination.

    Why?



    (1) "THE HOLOCAUST ARCHAEOLOGY HOAX"
    http://www.nafcash.com/

    EXCERPT "It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II - hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of corpses were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the - one hundred - graves / cremation pits that are alleged to have been scientifically proven to currently exist at these sites, in which verified human remains have been tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology; contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

    Those who believe they can refute any statement of fact articulated on this web page are invited to accept

    THE HOLOCAUST ARCHAEOLOGY HOAX CHALLENGE

    $100,000.00 REWARD

    For proving - just 1 / 1,000 of 1% - of the criminally fraudulent buried remains allegations" CONTINUED


    (2) "No Bodies Found at Treblinka"
    http://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2014/01/no-bodies-found-at-treblinka.html


    (3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298


    (4) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


    (5) “Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fan...e-Miracles.php

    EXCERPTS:
    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED


    (6) "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

    EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

    No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

    Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED
     
  3. Ronstar

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    many of them do.

    members of this very forum have posted Nazi propaganda to justify their Holocaust denial.

    they have called all Jews "liars".

    they have posted BS about "the Jews killed jesus", to justify their Holocaust denial.

    they have falsely accused Jews of valuing Jewish life over non-Jewish life, based on fraudulent quotes from the Talmud.

    all of this is nothing but pure anti-Semitism.

    the goal of Holocaust denial is to make Nazism respectable again, and to make the Jews victims of violent persecution.
     
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    Well, the Leuchter Report got destroyed and can no longer be used as evidence that there were no gassings at Auschwitz/Birkenau!

    Excerpt:

    The Leuchter Report is junk science and its conclusions are incorrect. For many of his findings, such as the amount of HCN residue, they prove nothing and can be easily explained. As shown, Leuchter’s methods were also flawed.

    Against his asserts, there is photographic, documentary, and physical evidence. For instance, documents show that gas-tight doors and fittings were ordered, constructed, and used. Eyewitness testimony and Nazi blueprints show that ventilation systems were installed in Cremas/Gas Chambers 2 and 3.

    Read the full article here:
    https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab12-leuchter-report/
    ----
    Well, there goes one denier down the hole! Or has anybody been able to resurrect him?


    What about Arthur Butz, who wrote "The Hoax of the Twentieth Century"?

    Excerpt:
    He re-examines the very German records so long misrepresented; he critiques the European demographics, which do not allow for the loss of the Six Million; he re-evaluates the concept and technical feasibility of the gas chambers with some startling conclusions; and he separates the cold facts from the sheer tonnage of disinformation that has served as a formidable barrier to the truth since the end of WWII.

    Read full article here:
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=7
    -----
    It was in the late nineties when I first came upon this book in our library and it truly shocked me! Until then I had accepted the holocaust as an event that happened during the war, just as sure as Germany lost that war.
    Of course, the book has since disappeared. It is actually banned in many European countries and Canada! Why ban it, just disprove it like Leuchter's report.

    In Wiki:

    "In 2006, sixty of Butz's colleagues from the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science faculty signed a censure describing Butz's Holocaust denial as "an affront to our humanity and our standards as scholars".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Butz
     
  5. Jonsa

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    Excuse me, I did not say the morgue was designed and built as a prototype. I said it was used as a prototype. It was a morgue in a basement. It had a ventilation system. It was easily "sealed". I see you can't discern the difference. Is English your second language or do you simply comprehend what you want to?

    As for slander about holocaust deniers, I'm sorry but it ain't slander when you speak the truth. Would you rather I call them lying scumbag holocaust revisionists? Of course you deny you deny the holocaust, you just don't think it happened

    AS for your drains conecting other buildings as such, where the hell did you get that from?

    here's the facts INCLUDING BLUEPRINTS.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-construction-of-crematoria-at-auschwitz

    Please explain why you refuse to accept facts and shovel bullshit excuses and raise fake objections.
     
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    For the most part, Holocaust Denial= anti-Semitism
     
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    Beside Zyklon B released Hydrogen cyanide is lighter than air and thus wouldn't have traveled through the floor drain unless the whole chamber was pressurized. The minuscule amount that could have made it through wouldn't have been enough to cause any arm since it took about 20 minutes of direct exposure to kill a packed chamber.
     
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    Billlllllllliant
     
  9. Ronstar

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    The most important thing to remember is that Holocaust denial is motivated by extreme hatred of Jewish people.

    Just look at all the Holocaust denial threads on this forum. everyone who has deny the Holocaust has also posted extreme animosity towards the Jews, Israel, the Talmud, etc.
     
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    just noticed I missed the attribution at the beginning of the post. For your reference.


    https://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/Exhib/HowtoEngl.html

     
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    There are numerous reasons why the misrepresented morgue -"homicidal gas chamber" could never have served as a homicidal gas chamber in addition to the absence of an adequate ventilation system, exhaust vent and location next to the Gestapo office, Commandant's office etc where people were coming & going all day.
    The toxic fumes from the building would sicken or kill anyone simply walking by the building.

    You can revile the Germans all you want but they were in no way stupid enough to locate a homicidal gas chamber allegedly gassing "thousands of screaming people per day" right next to an office building & other unrelated structures.

    It's typically dishonest of the Holocaust Industry to promulgate such a transparent hoax that the Auschwitz 1 morgue could ever have been used as a homicidal gas chamber.

    This particular issue is not so much that the toxic gas may leak through the drain lines but that the cyanide from the "gas chamber" drain would contaminate the ground water and drinking water used for the Auschwitz pool etc especially since Auschwitz had an unusually high water table.

    The reason that typhus contaminated bodies were cremated was not to hide "evidence" but to keep from furthering the spread of typhus by infecting the groundwater with typhus.

    It is for the same reason that the Germans would never have connected gas chamber drains to the overall storm drain system. They would not have wanted to contaminate the ground water with cyanide or cyanide residue.
     
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    LOL!!!

    if the Nazis really wanted to prevent the spread of typhus, they would have freed the Jews and other "untermenschen" from the concentration camps!!!
     
  13. Ronstar

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    Hey @Grau, if the Nazis wanted to stop the spread of typhus in the camps, why didn't they just liberate the camps????
     
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    You said in an earlier Post to a related thread:
    Since real homicidal gas chambers had been in use long before WW 2, why would the Germans need a "prototype"?

    I've already explained why the morgue in question could never have been used as a homicidal gas chamber to gas "thousands of screaming people" in my earlier Post #637

    The fact that the morgue, drains are connected to the storm drains & drains of the surrounding structures are common knowledge to people who are genuinely informed about this particular homicidal gas chamber hoax.

    The following source explains why the morgue could never have been used as a homicidal gas chamber capable of gassing "thousands of people per day" as claimed in fictitious holocaust cult mythology.

    Of course you'll call any expert who contradicts your deceptions a "clown" or an "idiot" but, of course, you cannot refute the facts they relate.



    "Listen to what a gas chamber expert had to say about the Holocaust gas chambers"
    https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/floor-drain-in-auschwitz-gas-chamber/

    EXCERPT
    "4. Construction
    Construction of these facilities shows that they were never used as gas chambers.
    None of these facilities were sealed or gasketed.
    No provision was ever made to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, floor or ceiling.
    No provision ever existed to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings.
    No provision ever existed to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the chamber.
    No explosion-proof lighting existed and no attempt was ever made to prevent gas from entering the crematories, even though the gas is highly explosive.
    No attempt was made to protect operating personnel from exposure to the gas or to protect other non-participating persons from exposure.
    Specifically, at Auschwitz, a floor drain in the alleged gas chamber was connected directly to the camp’s storm drain system."CONTINUED
     
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    I'd still like to know why millions of Jews were sent to concentration camps in the first place.

    what crimes were they convicted of?
     
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    In an ideal world, they would have.

    Why did Churchill inflict a REAL holocaust on fleeing German refugees:

    "Winston Churchill: the Imperial Monster"
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/01/28/winston-churchill-the-imperial-monster/

    “I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau."
    Winston Churchill

    Why did Genrikh Yagoda, about whom most people know nothing kill 10 million people:

    "Stalin's Jews"
    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people."CONTINUED

    Why did Eisenhower kill hundreds of thousands German POWs & civilians:

    "Eisenhower’s death camps — a stain on American history"
    https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/eisenhowers-death-camps-a-stain-on-american-history/


    EXCERPT "The POW camps set up by General Dwight D. Eisenhower, after World War II ended, are also called death camps, because 1.7 million German POWs allegedly died in these camps. To read more about Eisenhower’s camps, go to this website or this website."CONTINUED

    Why did Stalin relocate Eastern Europe's "missing Jews" to Siberia:

    "Stalin and antisemitism"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism

    EXCERPT "The percentage of Jews in positions of power dropped to 6% in 1938, and to 5% in 1940.[19]
    Relocation and Deportation of Jews During the War[edit]

    Following the Soviet invasion of Poland, Stalin began a policy of relocating Jews to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and other parts of Siberia. Throughout the war, similar movements were executed in regions considered vulnerable to Nazi invasion with the various target ethnic groups of the Nazi genocide. When these populations reached their destinations, work was oftentimes arduous and they were subjected to poor conditions due to lack of resources caused by the war effort.[24][25] According to first hand testimony, Stalin was sympathetic to Hitler and saw that "Gas chambers are sometimes necessary"CONTINUED

    There are innumerable examples of Man's inhumanity to Man but only one is so fragile that it needs laws to protect it from open debate and honest examination.....I wonder why.
     
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    There was no original material in that Post but if you're impressed by plagiarized fact free slander and Strawman fallacies you can't do better than that load of verbose rubbish.
     
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    oh so the Shoah was fake but the "holocaust against the Germans" was real?

    LOL!!!!!

    :roflol:

    this thread is about the Nazi/Fascist Holocaust, no so-called crimes by the Allies and Soviets.
     
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    at its greatest, no more than 200,000 Jews lived in Birobidjan.

    please stop derailing this thread flamebait against Jews
     
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    I meant that the deliberate firebombing of German cities consumed its victims by fire, ergo, "holo".

    Nowhere have I said that the persecution and execution of many Jews was fake.
     
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    this thread is about the Holocaust.

    lay off the derails
     
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    No, this thread is about Robert Faurisson, the fragility of the standard holocaust narrative & the persecution of people like Faurisson who expose the fraudulent holocaust narrative.
     
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    why should i shed a tear when a Neo-Nazi is "persecuted".

    **** him
     
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    thats because denial of the Holocaust is almost always based on animosity and hatred towards the Jewish people
     
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