Where is Trump's economic miracle?

How is the mere mentioning of the fact that the economy is not as good as Trump is claiming akin to "destroying the nation"? If so, conservatives certainly did a good job "destroying the nation" in the 8 years prior to Trump.

 

When in doubt, double down on human rights abuses to further please the bigots.

Trump admin to allow longer detention of migrant families

Washington (CNN)The Trump administration on Wednesday announced plans that could hold undocumented families detained together indefinitely, replacing the agreement that set a 20-day limit for holding children.

The rule unveiled by acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan is part of the administration's aggressive effort to revamp immigration laws as the number of families and unaccompanied minors crossing the US-Mexico border has increased.

In recent months, the administration has proposed rules that could make it more difficult for immigrants to get green cards, worked to end temporary protected status for migrants from certain countries and limit avenues to declare asylum.

... https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/immigration-family-detention-flores/index.html​

This so-called president will go down in infamy.

 

Why do you left-wingers hate this country so much that you are rooting for a recession?

 

Even in the absolute best of times businesses fail and people lose their jobs. That's just part of basic economics.

 

Why do you think its bigotry to enforce this nations laws?

 

Focusing upon data—economic indicators—is rooting for something?

And here I thought right-wingers were simply showing their affection for dogs. So you’re telling me you’re not sniffing ass you’re simply trying to hear. Okay.

 

I think this nation's laws are being enforced in an unamerican way that targets a vilified, scapegoated group of non-white people.

 

Once in a while you come up with a pithy comment. The thing is.........you are unwittingly describing Baby Donald.

 

Trump thinks tariffs will add U.S. manufacturing jobs. Economic reality says they won’t.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/21/trump-tariffs-bikes-manufacturing-1470361

"President Donald Trump had promised that his steep tariffs on Chinese goods would help bring jobs back to the U.S. But five years later, paradoxically, it is the very tariffs that Trump has imposed that have kept that plant in Manning, S.C., from expanding, Kamler said in an interview.

Firms are indeed moving out of China but are not flocking to the United States, undermining the central promise of Trump’s trade war. Cheaper labor markets in Southeast Asia are the ones benefiting the most amid the trade war that has ratcheted up duties on Chinese goods."

 

How are laws being enforced in an "unamerican way"?

How are people from Latin America "vilified" or "scapegoated"?

Where I grew up, here in the deep south, people of Latin American descent are pretty much considered "white". If not for the use of Spanish most people wouldn't notice anything distinctive about them at all.

 

It's unamerican to throw people in prison camps. I thought we'd settled this in WWII.

The Latin American immigrants are vilified as criminals and scapegoated for low wages and loss of jobs. Illegal immigrants are scapegoated for economic problems for which they are not actually responsible.

 

Isn't unemployment at a 50 year low? I think we're doing very well.

 

Real or wishful miracles?

States of America in alphabetical order;

10. Florida
11. Georgia
12. Greenland
13. Hawaii

 

If you are in this country illegally you are a criminal. If you are a criminal you get thrown into prison camps.

Why is this so hard for you to process?

 

The problem begins with criminalizing these people in the first place. They're not a danger to others when they're just ordinary people working and raising a family here. No matter whether they're breaking some law, it's wrong to demonize them as criminals.

Then there are the would-be immigrants and asylum-seekers, who are the ones being put in prison camps as far as I'm aware. Orange Hitler likes to call them invaders and portray them as some great threat to us, but again that just isn't true. He is demonizing them because it helps him maintain his support with like-minded bigots who just want to make American white again, and/or believe quite falsely that illegal immigrants somehow harm our economy. Again, that is vilification and scapegoating. Calling them criminals and rapists is likewise. Even if bad ones do occasionally come in, even legal immigrants may end up committing such crimes, just as a lot of people who are born here do. That's humanity for you.

 

Law breakers are criminals. It isn't "demonizing" them to call them "criminals". Nice of you to admit that your problem is with the U.S. having borders and trying to enforce those borders in the first place.

"ordinary people"??!?!!! WTF!! Far as I'm concerned "ordinary people" do not routinely break into someone else's country.

 

No, being here illegally is not a criminal act. It is not a felony or a misdemeanor. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor the first time and potentially a felony on repeat offenses.

 

It is demonizing them, because the label "criminal" carries serious connotations with it. It evokes feelings of fear and distrust. You use it as a way to attack these people and justify how they are being mistreated.

 

Not that you would pay any attention; it's like asking for proof that there is water in the ocean and you can't find it, so need proof.....

 

Nothing in the OP is"rooting against this country." Just because a fantasy is comforting does not mean that it should be believed or that it is somehow unpatriotic to accept uncomfortable truths over comforting lies. There is no Trump economic miracle. Every economic indicator he has taken credit for was already on an upward trend when he took office. Every single one. He's the rooster taking credit for the sunrise and it was already mid-morning when he started crowing.

 

Of course, it goes far beyond any claim of the economy not being as good. 8 years prior to Trump- Obama years? Forgot who was prez, I guess?

 

Didn't understand what he was getting at, I guess? When Obama was President, we had conservatives talking about how terrible the economy was. Does that mean they were cheering for the US to fail? No.

 

This is false. You should re-phrase.

 

You are right. Unemployment was on a downward trend rather than an upward trend, which is a good thing. Other than that the statement is correct. Employment, the GDP, consumer confidence, Dow Jones, every major stock index, etc. were all on upward trends. I've posted graphs of all of these before.

 

I'm not sure what graphs you have posted or what data you have analyzed, but I can only say you should re-analyze. Average monthly non-farm payrolls reached a high in 2015 then a 5 year low in 2017. They've only recently accelerated in 2018.


Same story with GDP YoY. Peak was achieved in Q1 2015, growth reached a low in Q2 2016. Re-accelerated during 2017.

As for stock market indices. Not worth debating because (at best) asset prices are a function of future projected earnings, or (at worst) asset prices are random.