Planned parenthood leaves title x family programs because of abortion rule

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    WHAT are you saying about the poor here? Is the insinuation that they can't control themselves? Or that they're too stupid to make the connection between sex and pregnancy?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they are too poor to afford long term birth control options, why would you be against this when it would reduce abortions
     
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    Which is a matter of hours and of no distinction, a baby in the womb is exactly that a baby.

    How about a medical site?
    Taking Care of You and Your Baby While You’re Pregnant
    https://familydoctor.org/taking-care-of-you-and-your-baby-while-youre-pregnant/

    How about the government women's health site?
    Health care for baby
    Right now, your OB or midwife is monitoring the health of your unborn baby.
    https://www.womenshealth.gov/pregnancy/getting-ready-baby/health-care-baby/

    OB/Gyn?
    COMPLETE PRENATAL CARE FOR YOU AND YOUR UNBORN BABY
    https://www.newbeginningsob-gyn.com...te-prenatal-care-for-you-and-your-unborn-baby

    Your fallacious statements otherwise notwithstanding.
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    So I guess we should do away with laws against murder because people commit murder anyway.


    So?

    [ pro-lQUOTE]manyifers this is not about the abortion, it's that they see it as a punishment to the women for having sex for reasons other than procreation[/QUOTE] That's a false characterization based on nothing but your own frustration.
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if you decide to have a baby, then people often call it a baby, but it's not, it's still a fetus, but because they choose to have a baby, it will be someday and if you want to to be born health you do certain things

    when someone asks you how old you are, do you add in that 9 months or not?
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    We have waiting list of thousands of childless couples begging to adopt new born babies. And if it is easy to kill the baby why is it hard to present it to a loving couple who will nurture and raise the child in a loving home?
     
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    not the same thing, be like me hooking our blood flow together and if you disconnect it we die.. so you can never disconnect it now

    so? your not gonna say that is not true? lol
     
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  8. FreshAir

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    yes, and many do not want to risk bringing a child into the world and giving it to a stranger that might be a child molester or who knows what

    some people find that risk acceptable, others do not, for some it would eat away at them not knowing
     
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    It's a baby no matter what, it is not situational. And you mean when is my birthday? But I would be more correct if I knew exactly what that day I was conceived was.
     
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  10. FreshAir

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    pro-lifers already do that....

    pro-lifers are the pro-deathers once a child is born
     
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    nope, I mean when someone asks how old you are? do you include the 9 months
     
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    I'm going to say it's not murder. If lack of intervention results in someone dying and the intervention requires great sacrifice like one's own blood that's not murder but if the intervention is required to terminate life and yes it's murder if it would otherwise go on to be brought to term intervening to slay it is still slaying it.

    Maybe this is an ego thing I already laid out the best argument for you perhaps you don't want to use it because it isn't your brain child.
     
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    I am talking after it's happened, you would have to undo it, at that point you have to do something that would kill someone else - say they drugged you and did it
     
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    I must have missed it, what is the reason you came up with that would convert you to be pro-choice

    if you are not pro-choice yet, then your idea must not of worked on you
     
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    I didn't mischaracterize you but you did it to me.
     
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    No it's still not analogous to Abortion sorry. And it's a pretty farfetch'd situation.
     
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    I never said that was you, but sadly some pro-lfers do just that, some even carry around dead fetus as props
     
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    it most certainly is, same legal reasons if a person is a person is a person, and a fetus is a person, same laws would need to apply
     
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    this isn't about banning abortion it's about keeping American tax payers from having to pay for them
     
  20. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    you responded to the post did you not read it? why would I be posted again after now I know you don't read the posts I post.

    You're starting to seem less of a pro-choice person and more of a contrarian. go to notifications tabs and look through the posts I've made to you and read it.

    Or just continue assuming things and being blind.

    I'm not interested in helping you become rational if you're too lazy to read.

    I just pointed out an argument I can't logically defeat I spoon-fed it to you I showed my cards and you're too arrogant to even look.

    discussing this with you is like talking about evolution with a young Earth creationist.

    F****** read if you want to know. I'm not giving you any more a gift-wrapped it and presented it to you.
     
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    I did not agree with the argument and it did not covert you to pro-choice, so it was not very convincing even to you

    you made it sound like you had a gift wrapped idea to convert people, that is what I never saw

    we have always said it's the woman's body and she should not be forced to risk her life to have a baby, I am glad you see that as a strong argument for pro-choice

    we will never agree on this topic, don't take it personal, I will always be pro-choice and you will always be pro-life, don't see that changing
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You don't even read what you respond to. After approaching you honestly you didn't read the post. you are not a respectable debater and I've lost any ounce of respect I ever had for you.

    You're starting to seem like just another hack.
     
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    Delete.
     
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    It’s called personification. attribution of personal qualities; especially : representationof a thing or abstraction as a person or by the human form
     
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    I think that's a lie I think it didn't agree with the argument because it was one you didn't come up with.

    Hell you didn't even read it.

    no I didn't I made it sound like I was faced with an argument that I couldn't counter.

    You proceeded with a litany of stupid ones that I countered every time that really are juvenile and I could defeat with out even being awake.

    So that's why I have no respect for you.
     

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