Times when you hate to be right...

And gun manufacturers/sellers hold profit over lives....which is why they fight so hard to prevent any reasonable gun control legislation geared to keep guns out of criminal hands as much as possible.

 

So you get a gun without any license or registration and keep it in a drawer or a mantle piece...until it's stolen or you accidently shoot someone or use in in self defense. then you've got a problem.

Oh and for the record, dirt bikes are not cars that for the most part are used on ROADS.

 

People getting canned for incompetence rarely makes the news, ya know, unless it's an exec. Don't assume it doesn't happen to the little people. And that doesn't change the validity of the OP.

 

Which is why we have laws, so folk of your mindset don't get other people screwed or killed because of your contempt of others.

 

I wish we could ban stupid retorts by those who can't logically or factually defend their contrary opinions.

 

Black market.

Just like how a drug dealer gets his illicit drugs.

Try to keep up.

 

No gun manufacturer calls any of their guns an "Assault Weapon".

The term was created by the anti-gun crowd in the 80's to label any gun they do not like.

Again, there is no such thing as an "Assault Weapon".

 

Straw purchases are already illegal.

 

Why would one ask such a stupid question?

 

There are over 20,000 Federal/State gun laws.

All of which are unconstitutional.

 

The only way to know that is if there is federal mandate of license and registration...that way background checks are made easier, and the front purchasing numerous weapons for transfers to criminals is soon discovered.

 

I pose that question based on your previous assertions. Follow the chronology of the posts...you make stupid differentiations regarding registering guns like you do cars, so the question is most apt in your case.

 

Says who, you? The NRA? So you want the Wild West again? Guess what, they eventually had folks check their guns with the sheriff before entering a town. Look it up, because I tire of trying to debate with people who are genuinely or willfully ignorant of the subject matter. the OP stands valid, especially in light of your reckless and indifference attitude towards human life.

 

Pick this up tomorrow, if the monitors allow it.

 

Thats such a ridiculous point I almost hate to acknowledge it at all.
So let's legitimize murder. Give everyone the right to kill whomever they please.. Think the murder rate would rise?

 

Says who?

The fricking Second Amendment for God Sake!!!!

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

 

You make the stupid argument that keeping and bearing a weapon should be treated the same as keeping and bearing a vehicle.

Keeping and bearing a weapon is a fricking constitutional right.

Keeping and bearing a vehicle is NOT a constitutional right. It's a privilege.

Try to keep up.

 

Do you have a comprehension problem?

The intentional purchase of a weapon for the sole purpose of giving/selling it to another person is already illegal.

 

You repeat ad nausea but you do not understand. The 2nd Amendment DOES NOT GUARANTEE YOU ACCESS TO ANY OR AS MANY WEAPONS THAT YOU DESIRE, as that has been constantly debated and ruled on through state and federal courts:

https://time.com/5169210/us-gun-control-laws-history-timeline/

https://www.thoughtco.com/us-gun-control-timeline-3963620

And then there's that sticky caveat regarding "a well REGULATED militia" https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Second+Amendment

But the bottom line STILL, is that has my proposal to license and register ALL gun purchases and sales in ALL fifty states been in play, the latest Texas shooter would NOT have had that weapon. For God's sake, leaving things as you want results in 20 dead! That's fricking unacceptable!

 

You misunderstand, so I'll clarify: had there been a law that required licensing and registration for all gun purchase and sales REGARDLESS of the situation in all 50 states, the latest Texas shooting would have NOT been with that weapon. This does NOT infringed on your right to a gun, as even with the 1994 AWB you had a plethora of weapons to choose from.

 

Lord, you gave them eyes yet they do not see. Here's the Merriam-Webster's dictionary of the word "privilege" a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor : prerogative

Fricking understand now? The State and the Federal gov't regulates car licenses and registration....they grant a RIGHT....just like they do with the 2nd Amendment. The difference is one is designed for transport, the other to kill or train in accuracy of killing. Why one would balk at licensing and registering the latter defies logic and common sense, given the tragic evidence in the last 30 years of the necessity.

 

No shyte, sherlock! the problem is, as we've seen recently, is that criminals have a penchant for such purchases. License and registration like a car makes that buyer solely responsible, the seller void of any responsibility after the sale (unless proven in court to have a habit of selling to the criminal element), and gives police a hell of an edge when dealing with weapons used in a crime. Crooks and nut jobs tend to frown on such. And through it all YOU GET TO BUY AND KEEP AND SELL YOUR GUN. Win, win.

 

Yet the AR-15 original design was to sell to the military as a trainer. Kind of fits the dictionary description, wouldn't you say?

 

About 400 million guns in the US. About 60% of them are registered, others have been passed down or come from a variety of paths besides gun dealers.
Guns are also smuggled in- particularly guns that are illegal, such as the copies of the Mac-10. A simple design that fires close to 1400 rounds a minute, well beyond even the military m-16. Made in small shops in Indonesia an a few other places, a favorite among the drug dealers.

Unlike cars, guns aren't an everyday item people use casually. Careless driving, cell phones, texting and inattention cause most accidents- not the cars. Yes we register the cars... But not to control the risk of one going our on it's own and running over you. We do it for that old political imperitive- Taxes. No matter what else- Get The Money. Cars also use public infrastructure such as highways, bridges and traffic control systems, part of the taxes covers the use of those things that involve your car.

Nobody approves of shooting, especially the mass shooting that always make people freak out- and that is more true of gun owners than anybody. We know that when a crime makes use of a gun- the uproar begins again. Not much towards the fact that a hostile person killed somebody- but that he did it with a gun. Thousands of times, we have been told that if we control the guns, we control the killings.

Any logical person can understand that a gun is a tool, a piece of machinery- and the only time it become a murder weapon is when a person intent on murder holds it. Murder has been illegal since time began- and laws haven't prevented them, because ONLY law-abiding citizens follow laws, and they pose no threat in the first place.

IF we controlled all the guns (and look at drugs to see how effective that might be) that would leave- all the people intent on murder in the same environment and just as hostile as before. They don't say "Aw, shucks" and give up on the idea of killing you if a gun were not available. The anger, the hostility driving them to violence is just as strong as ever. There is no way all weapons can be removed, because nearly everything can become a weapon. Hammers and clubs kill more people than all the rifles of every kind and caliber put together. In the hands of a reasonably knowledgeable person- a common wooden lead pencil is a murder weapon, and a very effective one. The choice of weapons doesn't really matter- if you are dead, you are dead.

However- if the nation doubled the number of weapons, but also acted to control the angry, disturbed people ready to kill.... murder rates would virtually evaporate.
Angry, mentally distraught people kill people. They always have, they always will- and so long as we focus on the choice of weapon and leave the killer in place- nothing will change, except we will hassle all the people who have nothing to do with the motivations to murder in the first place. Excessive gun control is a major distraction, keeping attention off the real source of killings. Gun owners know that- but gun haters don't seem to understand it at all.