Times when you hate to be right...

Well, after you ban guns, trucks and fires will devastate many more people than guns.

 

Anybody that is a danger to others should be in prison or a mental institution.

 

My guess is that the terms of your argument in those threads weren't conducive to discussion. You are fairly unreasonable on this subject, and I wouldn't answer you on it for that reason.

 

So basically, you want to outlaw a type of weapon that is involved in fewer murders in the U.S. than either fists/feet or knives.

All rifles (of which assault rifles are a subgroup) per FBI statistics in 2017, were the instruments used in 403 murders. Knives/cutting instruments were used in 1591 murders (almost 4 times as many). Fists were used in 696. Yet assault rifles should be banned?

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

 

he would buy it off his friend the fence, who bought a stolen gun that was stolen from the police or military.


https://www.thetrace.org/2018/11/lost-and-stolen-police-guns/
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/guns-stolen-from-city-of-miami-police-cruisers-11230216

 

AR-15s are responsible for a minuscule amount of murders. All rifles (of which ARs are only a part) were used in 403 murders in 2017. That's less than the number of murders by knives or fists or clubs.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls

 

Vehicles are registered so that government can tax them as a reimbursement for government providing roads. Also, I'm not required to have a license to drive on my own property, nor do I need to have a car registered in order to drive it on my own property.

 

Straw purchases (which is purchasing a gun for a person not allowed to buy a gun) are illegal, on the part of the person doing the purchasing. If Joe Blow buys a Glock for his cousin John Doe (who just got out of prison for an armed robbery conviction) from Fred's gun store, Joe Blow is committing a federal crime. Fred's gun store is not committing a crime. This is current federal law, and has been, IIRC, since 1968.

 

I've owned guns since I was 14. My guns have not caused any harm to anybody. Why should I be harassed and treated like a potential criminal in some quixotic attempt to stop violence?

 

Because apparently dems think that someone that is going to murder another person is gonna license and register their gun first

 

No it won't. You cannot cure a disease by treating a symptom. The disease is that there are somethings in our society is driving people to do desperate acts. Until we identify what those things are and correct them, people will find a way to commit the violence they believe somehow vindicates them.

 

Or that the license or registration will give law enforcement ESP so they can predict what people will do....

 

Actually, it wasn't. It was designed to replace the M-14. (how did you invent that bit of fiction? Just shows your lack of credibility if you just make this kind of garbage up without any kind of reference. The link is to the PDF from the U.S. Army's report on the M-16. See page C-1. "The development of the AR15 rifle, was initiated in mid-1957 by Mr. Eugene Stoner of the Armalite Corporation, Costa Mesa, California, in response to a verbal request from General Wyman, The request, also made to other gun manufacturers was for a new lightweight infantry rifle chambered for high velocity caliber .22 cartridges" The Army ended up rejecting the AR-15. The Air Force wanted a lightweight weapon for their security forces (as a replacement for the M-1/M-2 carbines), and they ended up adopting the AR-15. This was not the same weapon as the current civilial AR-15s, as these were full automatic.


https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a953110.pdf

 

The mass shooters probably will. Most mass shooters buy their guns legally from gun stores with a background check. Licensing isn't going to stop them. Heck, the second worst mass shooter in U.S. history had a armed security guard's license which requires about a week of training and a mental health evaluation.

 

Have you ever watched a couple of episodes of "Live PD on the A&E network? Fully 75% of the people they pull over do not have an ID, drivers license, registration, or insurance on their cars. Are you naive enough to believe they will get that for their guns?
Don't you ever try to sell that license and insurance crap to anyone as it makes you look silly. Criminals do not care.

 

Yep....look up the "iron pipeline" regarding transport of guns for criminal purpose. Interesting stuff.

 

Spare me the idiotic meme about owning a car you don't drive. YOU OWN that car, you have the papers that prove ownership. That is a paper trail. God help you if that car is stolen and used in a crime, and somehow is traced to your property....you'd have some explaining to do, let alone a problem of reporting the theft to the cops, as there would be not much you they could do.

As I said, it wouldn't stop all crime, BUT if you stockpile, that's going be on record....you sell, that's going to be on record, you buy, etc., etc. JUST LIKE A CAR. Criminals and nut jobs on the whole don't like such.

 

No shyte sherlock! Still makes it a military weapon designed to assault the enemy. And the later commercial sales pitches sure as hell did n't hype it as just a target shooter, now did it? Capice'?

 

Newsflash for ya, the 1994 AWB worked until it sun set, then sales went off the charts. Are you telling me those sale receipts can't be quantified? Jeez, how do the car sales and such work all those years. But note regarding Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Canada

 

And there you have it, readers....legal rulings that Molon doesn't like "Mean diddly squat".....how can anyone have a logical, rational, fact based discussion with such a mindset who can only parrot a myopic one liners?

 

Sorry, but your personal interpretation doesn't mean diddly squat. History and legal scholars, federal and State rulings tell a different story.

 

Stupid private sales without question are cut down, as also with gun show sales. Criminals are less likely to go on any record purchasing a gun or guns. this will also cut down on the frequency of "iron pipeline" situation in some cities. Not perfect, but a hell of a lot better than the status quo.

 

Your insipid stubbornness non-with standing....the military definition and such disagree, as I've shown in other posts.

 

What's funny about dead kids and people from mass shooters who would not have had that assault weapon had the 1994 AWB still been in place? Or if the license and registration would have made them wary of purchasing that weapon(s)? You have a warped sense of humor, my man.

 

Why don't you take your little stat game to the surviving family members of all the mass shooting victims in the last 20 years that used those weapons? https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/why...ing-at-americas-deadliest-mass-shootings.html