The whistle blower story heats up. Yet another example of stonewalling.

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  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    No, what is at issue is who is listening in to the President's calls? He is Head of State and it is part of his responsibility to speak with other heads of state. Those are privileged conversations.
     
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    What? Atkinson contacted Schiff about what he informed Maguire he was investigating. It's up to Atkinson to decide what details of his INDEPENDENT ongoing investigation, congress is entitled to review. Maguire is only following the whistleblower rules congress enacted, and ironically refusing to violate ODNI rules on disclosure.
     
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  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your off topic attempt at deflection is noted. The subject at hand is the admin's efforts to stonewall Congress on info regarding the whistleblower complaint, and the nature of what Don's "promise" was that resulted in the complaint being made.
     
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    Adam Schiff is a psychiatric case. Anyone who is taking that nutter seriously also has a problem. Nornal countries try to stop lunatics fron running the asylum
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clearly we failed in that endeavor when the EC elected Don.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not having someone either listening to a prez's calls or reading the transcript is what would be abnormal.
     
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    What the Trumplings here need to admit, they don't care if this is true, nor if it rises to the level of treasonous, Trump's buffoonish agenda is fully worth it to them, ethics, transparency, legality be damned. They simply hope he gets away with it. That's the truth, but they can't just say that.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That agenda being..........making climate change happen faster, taking healthcare insurance away from millions, increasing his personal fortune, damaging international alliances, breaking the system of checks and balances, increasing the national debt, soothing his fragile ego, allowing more pollution, taking away consumer rights, lowering taxes for the wealthy, doing nothing about gun control unless he determines it is in his political advantage to do so.
     
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    The question is who is doing the listening. Anyone who believes the attempted coup has run it's course is delusional.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently, someone in the intel community. Anyone who believes a coup was attempted is delusional.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

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    "The whistleblower works in the US intelligence community (which includes the CIA, the NSA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and a whole bunch of other agencies). Per the Post, he or she “once worked on the staff of the White House National Security Council, which frequently borrows intelligence community personnel.”
    https://www.vox.com/2019/9/18/20872701/dni-whistleblower-schiff-intelligence
     
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    Thank you for educating the Board members that Atkinson is the only IG, who has no regulatory or administrative authority or duty to send Congress whistle blower complaints.

    Congress must subpoena for such material, and that is what Schiff did.
     
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    The attempt is still ongoing.
     
  14. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, the DNI is obligated by statute to make the intel committees in Congress aware of the complaint. His failure to do so resulted in Schiff's subpoena.
     
  15. Lee Atwater

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    Bullshyte.
     
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    That does not entitle anyone to listen to confidential conversations as the President deals with foreign issues. That's his job.
     
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    Yes it is but that's the DNC for you.
     
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    If you think someone was eavesdropping on the conversation you are delusional.
     
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    The far Trump right are desperately grasping at straws.
     
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    Who was the foreign leader and what was the promise?
     
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    Why are you asking me?
     
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    You seem to know everything else?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess the point here is we would know the answer to both questions if the DNI had complied with the law. But on the advice of Billy the Bagman, Maguire broke the law..........which is ironic in and of itself since Billy is supposed to make sure laws are complied with.
     
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    Only if it involves intel members. This doesn’t.
     
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