Climate Activist Greta

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Just A Man, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    If the parents say NO, what happens with that 'decision' they've made?
     
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    Sure, the decisions their parents decide for them. By law.
     
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    It doesn't happen. But that doesn't change the fact that the teen decided that they wanted to do something. I decided on lots of things as a teen. Many I could do some I couldn't.
     
  4. drluggit

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    See. you were onto something there, that whole "cause evidence can't trump willful ignorance of entrenched ideology" thing, right there, except you don't understand who those people are, do you? And because the actual evidence then doesn't support your new version of liturgy, whatever will you do now?
     
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    Signs of global evolution are every where. Where is it written that climate must remain a constant for the rest of eternity? Are you denying the science?
     
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    No one has ever said, least of all me, that the climate doesn't or shouldn't change. We expect that it will, and that it will endlessly. So, now that we have that out of the way, tell me again why you think man has a hand in it. See, this is actually the hard part. Yup, we can see that glaciers grow or recede, and yes, we can do compositional analysis of the atmosphere. But, I couldn't if pressed ever actually demonstrate that the fractional part of CO2 that man is actually responsible for in the ecosystem has any demonstrable effect. Last study I read suggested that it might make up less than 1% of the actual changes, but that the outcome was so small that it might not even be that much to a high degree of statistical certainty. So, if you want, we can play this game too, but I still want to understand what outcome you would find acceptable first.

    If, as we know, nature allows the climate to change, to what extent are you willing to allow it to do so, and then, harder question, how do you suppose that you'll be able to actually effect it, and lastly, at what cost to humanity are you willing to try?

    So, let us be clear here. The things that are irrefutable are likely to be entirely naturally occurring. So, find a new ploy.
     
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    Sure, as long as their parents make the decision according to the legal requirement for them to do so.
     
  9. redeemer216

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    So you've never made a decision to do something but weren't actually able to do it. Does that somehow mean you didn't make the decision? Because that is the logic your applying here.
     
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    His logic is flawed but he'll never admit he's wrong. It's been fun watching him twist in the wind.
     
  11. vman12

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    Oh no I made plenty of decisions as a kid.

    Like when I was 12 and I decided I was going to buy a sword.

    Strangely, the law didn't recognize my ability to make that decision.

    It's almost like the law doesn't think non-adults can make their own decisions.
     
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    Here. Can we be done now?
    The law does not negate one's ability to make decisions. It only enforces actions or non actions (the effects of said decision) and sometimes fails, so the the law says nothing about one's decisions. Full stop. Otherwise we would have thought crime.
     
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    And no, the law doesn't recognize your capacity to make a decision as a minor, so you didn't actually make a decision.

    You just wanted something that didn't work out. Kinda like Hillary Clinton.
     
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    He either will never understand or he’s just trolling.
     
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    "I'm going to make a decision! But first, I will get permission!"

    lmfao

    Let me know when your kid decides the moon is theirs.
     
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    Why would you purposely edit my post? And then call attention to it :wierdface:
     
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    Gonna say this one more time vman. The law doesn't care about your decisions. It only cares about actions. The two are completely different. This will be my last response. Others are free to respond to this nonsense some more I guess.
     
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    Because you used incorrect english to misdirect. And I put your unaltered quote in there.
     
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    Oh I see.

    So the law doesn't care if a 14 year old decides to plan a romantic getaway with a 30 year old.

    As long as they don't actually do it, the decision stands.

    Don't decisions kind of imply a result? Why, I think they do.

    THE LAW defines your CAPABILITY of making a decision.

    So I guess you were wrong after all.
     
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    Well, you shouldn't have :) You can bring it to my attention but you can not alter my original text in a "Quote" of mine..
     
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    Is that what you do with your kids...make every choice for them? So basically you're training your kids not to think for themselves.
     
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    That's it, get it out of your system.

    "Derp dad I'd like to becomz a climatez activest expertz and sail teh worldz on a 50 millonz dollar yachtz mades from teh petroliumz productz. Muh decisionz is finalz knavez."
     
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    It's what those without an actual argument do.

    Engage in duplicity.
     
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    I like to think the left simply don't believe the rules apply to them..
     
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    I gotta give my keys to the 2 year old, she decided she wanted to go get some ice cream.
     
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