Trump didn't openly extort Zelensky. He simply made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

I think you lefties are under the false assumption that asking for help in an election is illegal. It's not.

It doesn't matter if we're dealing with a foreign government. Asking for help in the form of an investigation isn't receiving something of monetary value.

 

"About as clear as one can get?" Okay, so it wouldn't have been any clearer if he actually MENTIONED the election?

 

I think we should finds out all those questions...which means that the White House needs to be open and transparent.

Uhoh

 

Trying to get help from a foreign power in an election is absolutely against the law.

Just because Trump got away with it in 2016 doesn't mean that it is legal

 

LOL, you are quoting ABC news. The actual transcript does not support ABC's sensational version

Fair minded people can read it here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...nald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call/index.html

I will give the Trump haters this: Rudy Giuliani has no business engaging in an official
investigation. None that I can see.

 

Notice that Schiff depicts all this as a request to dig up dirt on Biden. I dont read the transcript that way. He simply asked what happened. Not sure you can constitutionally punish that. How is it not free speech?

Hey, anyone think the Ukrainians will come up with evidence of prostitutes giving each other golden showers on Biden's bed?

 

I am referencing your own claim above that people who know Trump do not support your assessment when in private. Do you now withdraw it?

If you can't substantiate it, thay would be the honorable thing to do

 

Still can't defend your position I see.

 

umm, no.

I don't know where you lefties get this garbage, but you need to get studied up on the law.

 

Do you for a minute think that matters?

You're a Trumper. He could shoot someone on Fifth Ave and you would still support him.

 

Getting foreign "help" of a thing of value from a foreign power is illegal.

Using the Office of the Presidency to EXTORT something from anyone (foreign or domestic) to enrich yourself either financially or politically is illegal

Conspiracy to do any of the above is illegal.

Obstructing Congressional investigations is illegal...should I go on?

 

asking a foreign government to investigate somebody isn't a thing of value, A thing of value would be something like something you get that can be sold on ebay.

Now what do you think that can get on ebay?

Let's say that Trump wanted to start going after kiddie porn on the internet. He'd ask foreign governments to help him with info on servers that cater to that kinda thing, yes? They'd provide it.

That might help him in 2020 or it might not. The deal breaker is that you can't put a monetary value on that. It's just something he did as Prez that made him a lot more likeable than the idiot that the dems will eventually have to nominate.

That's not illegal.

Honestly, I think you need to get back to reality, or go back to that stupid russian conspiracy theory that broke your lefty back.

Credibility is nil. You have none.

 

What the devil are you talking about? If you're referencing something I said, quotes would be appreciated.

 

Reminds me of " we never said collusion" I'm sure it'll be different this time

 

I'm talking about YOUR post at 11:25 a.m. Unless you have an evil twin.

Stop playing the innocent. And stop wasting my time reminding you of your own posts.

 

Yes, you should go on. You might say something valid. Eventually.

 

Again: If you're referencing something I said, quotes would be appreciated.

 

You're making an assumption, no matter how SAFE of an assumption you think it is. Biden is not JUST a politcal opponent to Trump. He is also a Senator to the United States of America.

 

The FBI obviously cannot investigate an internal Ukraine matter.

 

I did. Trump didn't say anything REMOTELY like, investigate Biden, or else.

Is Ukrainian corruption not an issue?

 

Ummmmmyea...he did

 

Is that to me? Are you not familiar with the quote function?

 

No, you conveniently cut off the rest of what Tump said after "I would like to ask for a favor though." Read the transcript. He proceeded to talk about Crowdstrike which has nothing to do with Biden!

 

You mean the agreement with Ukraine for cooperation in prosecuting crimes that passed under Biden? Biden bragged about his crime to threaten Ukraine to drop the Burisma investigation. They fired the prosecutor and dropped the investigation.

 

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story


Mafia you say?