How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

If they can't have kids, what obligations do they have that gays don't?

 

Yep. One of the ones who have shared their story on the internet to help others in their lives.
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And don't call him Shirley!

 

No.

 

Shawn who?

 

Yes he was, he's a female to male transexual.

 

Well, no. I'm not male, and I agreed with him. I also know plenty of women who think lesbians are ridiculous.

 

Really?

Gender is an amalgamation of numerous glands, chemical balances, and other features spread throughout the human body.

You can't look at visible exterior features and have a full understanding of what's going on in there.

 

I'm ONLY talking about women who have masculine mannerisms to the point of being very obviously lesbian. Creepy as hell, as stated.

 

Shawn Stinson. He's a body building champion, the first MtF champion.

 

Shawn Stinson I believe.

 

Any two people can have children. In fact, ONE person can have children.

Obtaining and raising children has nothing to do with this topic.

PERIOD.

So, the idea that there are different "obligations" is something you really need to explain.

 

People (it seems a lot more recently) get all riled up about the transgender thing but I'll bet half the time they couldn't even tell if a person was transgender.

 

Are you suggesting that they should be excluded from the promise of equal treatment on the grounds that you think they are "creepy"?

 

I cannot imagine any world where something like that could ever bother me. I just take people as I find them regardless of appearance. As long as they're comfortable in their own skin why care?

 

Shouldn't that be FtM?

 

I meant that's what it said on his birth certificate. I'm no expert in transgender issues, I was just proffering an example of a female to male transexual since people only ever seem to take issues with male to female transexuals.

 

Such a proscription would discriminate against celibates, males who have had vasectomies, females who have had been sterilized, and others who are sexually impotent, including everyone beyond the age of reproduction.

Those who obsess over the intimate lives of others would deny many the right to marry.

 

You can make that point until the sun collapses but with some people it will never sink in.

 

Alas.

I am curious concerning a question that I had preciously posed, but no one answered:

Are homophobes also upset by the occurrence of homosexuality across the wide range of biological species in nature and throughout time?

... same-sex coupling is fairly widespread across all animal groups, from insects to reptiles to primates. Canadian biologist Bruce Bagemihl was one of the first researchers to authoritatively summarize these findings in his 1999 book Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity. Bagemihl's work brings together discoveries on bisexual and homosexual behavior patterns across more than 450 species, ultimately arguing that such variations in sexual behavior demonstrate that sexuality is far more fluid and multifaceted than scientists once believed...

https://www.thoughtco.com/homosexuality-in-animals-4164365​

I assume that anyone who becomes verklempt over the sexual preferences of human strangers, must also be unhinged by the amorous dispositions of fruit flies, Atlantic molly fish, and bonobos.

Yes?

"If there is anything that really bums me out,
it is thinking about pervert camels!" ​

 

What's on a birth certificate rarely if ever comes from any sort of deep analysis.

I don't mean to be particularly critical here - I just note that the issue of sexuality is, in rare cases, somewhat confused with various sex related aspects not matching one specific stereotypical pattern.

Firing someone because their parts didn't all match, and they fixed that?

How could that possibly affect job performance? What could be the possible objection? How is our societ improved by refusing to allow these people to fully contribute to our economy?

 

Restricting the talent pool over matters irrelevant to job performance - gender, race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, hair color, eye color, etc., etc., etc. - is obviously detrimental to achieving maxinal societal potential.

Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
To live

They got little hands
And little eyes
And they walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

Well, I don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
'Round here

Short people are just the same
As you and I
(A fool such as I)
All men are brothers
Until the day they die
(It's a wonderful world)

Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
Short people got nobody
To love

They got little baby legs
And they stand so low
You got to pick 'em up
Just to say hello
They got little cars
That got beep, beep, beep
They got little voices
Goin' peep, peep, peep
They got grubby little fingers
And dirty little minds
They're gonna get you every time

Well, I don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
Don't want no short people
'Round here​

 

Again from the other direction ...

Anyone can have childeren.

The whole "children" thing is separate from the issue of transgender equality.

 

Yes, typo. Sorry.

 

And we've brought that up many times, but they won't actually address it since it destroys their arguments. If they could at least be consistent and claim that the law doesn't or shouldn't allow for such marriage, I'd could at least credit them with logic from a faulty base.

 

I don't think anyone has put the children thing with transgenders yet. We started with just whether or not homosexuality is a perversion. ATM we seem to be stuck on a same sex marriage rut, which just barely fits within the topic. No one has brought up trans getting married yet.

Also anyone with intact reproductive organs can have children. The rest have to make due with raising children.