How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

Sex is not required to get married or stay married.

 

I think kreo may be referring to cases where a lesbian couple had a child, and the biological mother then died. The wife was then denied custody of the child, leaving the child to some other member of the family of the biological mother. It has happened that way with same sex male marriages, where the biological father died and the state took away the child.

BUT, Kreo wants to present that as "not being held responsible"!! As if, the child wasn't wanted. As if the law didn't take the child away.

Of course, that's one of the reasons that same sex marriage is important.

Having this kind of travesty continue to be institutionalized is clearly unacceptable.

 

Unbelievable.

 

Gods, no, I didn't try to imply that the source the child made difference as to the costs or benefits of raising them. In fact that's been the whole point of the current trend of the thread.

 

The legal definition of incest in most states is sex or marriage. Another example of where the legal definition doesn't necessarily match other definitions.

 

He's listed on the birth certificate, he's responsible. If he feels he's not, he can challenge it with a DNA test. If the mother is not married she'll be asked if she wants to list a father. Even if she doesn't if she seeks state assistance, in many states they will ask and investigate. If they find the father, he will be held legally responsible.

You still haven't shown what law regulates my sex, but doesn't regulate a gay man's sex.

 

You obviously didn't read, since he was talking about a straight couple who adopted. This I why you are failing this. You're assuming what is said without actually reading it.

 

They know that the elderly cannot procreate. Yet they can get married.

You still haven't shown where the law says procreation is the basis of legal marriage.

 

Actually this situation covers all step parents, regardless of the spouse combination.

 

Some gods are borderline atheists?

 

Don't confuse your inability to form a coherent argument with inconsistency on my part.

 

Unbelievable.

 

I have formed an argument, but you've been unable to respond to my last post!

 

I agree .. Homosexuality should be discussed in the context of what I posted - essential liberty.

 

Why do heterosexual activities need to be regulated by the government and are there any current regulations?

 

Time for some perspective here. This happened 8 days ago.

https://www.today.com/parents/16-year-old-boy-dies-suicide-after-he-was-outed-t163564 He hung himself in a tree.

"A high school student died by suicide after his family and friends say he was outed on social media by classmates. He was 16 years old....
Joshua explained. "Within a couple of hours, I was able to put together a storyline that my brother engaged in texting with another boy. They were sexually explicit in nature, and the boy had turned these screenshots over to a girl who released them on social media."

The conversations reviewed by TODAY were sexually explicit.

Faith says that after the screenshots were shared on social media, Channing, who was not out as LGBTQ at the time, was cyberbullied by classmates."

I have to post this despite a lack of independent verification. Its a letter from a similar boy, of a similar age, who tried to kill himself. It gives you an idea of the mental and emotional trauma and anguish that some of these kids endure day after day. http://www.suicide.org/suicide-note-of-a-gay-teen.html

Homosexuality is not the perversion in these stories . Indiscriminate and senseless cruelty is

 

How are you defining "perversion?"

 

And what does that have to do with religion or marriage?

 

adoption is a choice, pregnancy is not.
that is a difference.
when man have a relationship with a woman man has no choice.

 

Incest is a sex.
Ban on incest means ban on sex.
marriage is about sex.
It is simple and clear logic.

 

I do know, apparently because heterosexual couple might procreate.
Procreation is a public issue, not private, so it should be regulated.
But government historically regulates relationship between man and woman, e.g. in US government is very oppressive about sex.

 

1. They do not know at what point procreation stops for every particular couple.
2. Marriage assumes that relationship might last whole life, without interruption.
And again, it is not procreation that required for marriage, it is a institution of marriage that required for procreation.

 

Pregnancy is not a choice? Really? Since when? Pretty sure my wife and I CHOSE to have kids.

 

There is nothing new in your post.
The logic is simple, if law prohibits certain type of sex that means marriage is also about sex.

 

How does the govt “regulate” relationships?