Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP

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  1. Kal'Stang

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    Burisma paid Joe Biden $900,000 for lobbying – Ukrainian MP

    Things just got a LOT worse for Joe Biden. So much for the whole thing being a hoax eh? So...guess Trump wasn't wrong in asking Zelenski to investigate the situation after all. He did his job as the laws of our Constitution dictate.
     
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    The article says the following:

    "Funds in the amount of $900,000 were transferred to the U.S.-based company Rosemont Seneca Partners, which according to open sources, in particular, the New York Times, is affiliated with Biden."

    That company was started by Joe Biden's son … which is the only affiliation Joe Biden seems to have with it. I'm not sure why they sensationalized the headline in such a way to make it seem as if Burisma paid Joe Biden. Since Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma as well as a founder of Rosemont Seneca Partners I'd be more likely to believe that's how he received his compensation from Burisma.

    I think that the whole Joe Biden/Ukraine thing has been pretty thoroughly documented and investigated at this point. Of course people are free to keep trying to find things, but by all indications there's no there there.
     
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    Where are the documents, who did the investigating, and what were the results?
     
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    Might want to read a bit more. The article mentions that they also paid Hunter Biden with separate funds.

    The 900k was to Joe Biden personally and other funds went to Hunter Biden. Two different sets of sums. Additionally its been widely reported that Hunter was paid 50k per month. In one years time that is 600k. That's 300k short of the 900k that is claimed was given to Joe Biden personally.
     
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    Damn, but things just keep piling up for poor Joe on the face of it but his chicanery seems to appeal to Democrats. This will only help his campaign also. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...r-when-he-was-vice-president-officials-reveal
     
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    it was investigated by the guy who replaced the guy Biden got fired..
     
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    Well that seems okay for Biden supporters.
     
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    yup cause they start off with the assumption that Biden can do no wrong.. exactly the opposite of what they assume about every republican
     
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    To put a little meat on the bones of what Burisma really is ....

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/10/biden-timeline.html#more

    But the real puzzlement is that from everything that can be inferred, Burisma is either tiny or just a shell company. So who is behind these big director payoffs payouts? Richard found some bread crumbs that pointed to Burisma being owned by Privat Group, a conglomerate controlled by the Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky.

    Burisma is officially owned by Mykola Zlochevsky, a former Ukrainian Minister for Natural Resources who (illegitimately) issued oil and gas licenses to companies he himself owned. But Richard's trail shows that Burisma was sold or raided with the help of various shell companies and that the real owner is probably the Nazi loving criminal oligarch Igor Kolomoisky.

    The German state funded DW notes an additional candidate:

    several Bursima press releases name and quote Mykola Zlochevsky as owner and president of the Burisma Group. Is he now just a front man for a bigger oligarch?
     
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    The Swamp groweth.
     
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    Biden is as corrupt as they come. Watching him confess to bribing a foreign official so as to get him to drop his investigation into little hunter biden was jawdropping.
    It's so telling that the dems accuse Trump for things one of their presidential candidates actually did and confessed to on tape. The hypocrisy is astounding.
     
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    How convenient for you if creepy joe and his creepy son hunter's corruption could be swept under the rug. The "whole thing" about these two creeps hasn't been investigated nearly enough.
    Of course there is a there, there. Biden joked about the 'there, there' in front of an audience and on tape. There was nothing about his joke about bribing foreign officials that could be interpreted in any way other than it was blatant corruption, and was an interference into another country's business which I believe is illegal according to the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act of 1977.
     
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    Can you please post a link to where he's actually confessing to this? I'd be interested. It was my impression that all his activities vis a vis Ukraine were known by the government and its allies and sanctioned by them.
     
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    1:13 into video. Biden admitted to using public funds to bribe a foreign official to stop investigating creepy hunter. Sanctioned by the government? Well that makes it A-OK then.
    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/think-obama-administration-wasnt-corrupt-think-again/
    Check out Biden and Kerry's little venture. Corrupt as they come.
     
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    I think you have the wrong impression of me. I've been a right leaning independent my entire life. That said, I've tried my best to not be partisan nor fall prey to conspiracy theories. While it's true that I think that President Trump is a horrible president as well as a horrible person in general, that shouldn't be seen as an endorsement of any kind of anyone else. All this to say, it wouldn't be convenient for me at all if any corruption for which Vice President Biden is responsible is swept under the rug.
     
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    So, essentially the entire western world thinks this prosecutor is corrupt and Vice President Biden just happens to be the one to bring the hammer down and that makes him, personally, responsible for getting this guy fired? I don't see the "admission" in the video as any kind of smoking gun. I see that as the Vice President being effective at his job, although he seems to be boasting a bit since the guy wasn't fired until well after the Vice President left Ukraine. While I'm not a huge fan of the Vice President and think he'd be the wrong choice for President, I think the firing of this prosecutor is a dry hole … unless you truly believe that the entire western world decided to conspire with the Vice President to keep his son out of jail. I think that's quite the stretch.

    Here's a link to one report among many that pokes a lot of holes in the story.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/why-was-ukraine-top-prosecutor-fired-viktor-shokin/30181445.html

    I'm still searching for more stuff about the $900,000 than just the one story that seems to be repeated over and over. That would certainly be an interesting development if it turns out to be true.
     
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    Exactly! This is a talking point invented by the Queen Hillary. If you just get your surrogates in the news to repeat over and over, that something has been investigated or debunked the sheeple accept that at truth, although nothing ever was investigated concerning Biden nothing has been debunked. That is why they never offer any proof of that. That is the new democrat party go to : "that was investigated, debunked and no charges" Investigated by who you ask.........crickets. I love the line "no credible news agency looked in to it" Well there is only one credible news agency FOX and they will look in to it. The rest will cover for Biden.
     
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    More FauX news by trumpettes desperately deflecting on behalf of their criminal in the White House ?
     
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    I am sorry, didn't you know that the rumor that Trump supports deflect has been investigate and debunked.
     
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    Still no evidence of wrong-doing and you have not provided a link so we can fact-chick your conclusion.
     
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    Try using your cursor as the link is right there in the post. Very first line under the quoted text in fact.

    And if that is not wrong doing then Trump is most definitely innocent.
     
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    You obviously didn't click on the link either as the article was not written by Fox or any affiliate of Fox. It's actually a foreign news outlet. Try again with your dismissive rhetoric?
     
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    Okay, thanks.......if there was wrongdoing it should be made public but this has been investigated with no evidence of wrong-doing so far. I don't think Hunter was qualified to be on the board or to be compensated at that level but so far that is not a crime.
     
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    But Joe Biden accepting 900k of lobbying funds and using his son's affiliation with Rosemont Seneca Partners company to launder it IS a crime, especially since he was Vice President. Apparently the guy making this claim says he has documents about it and he's a member of Ukraine's parliament. Andriy Derkach is his name if you want to look him up.
     
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    Yes, it is a foreign owned news outlet. Did you notice what foreign country it is based in? Russia ring any bells? Interfax isn't state run, but it knows how to keep Generalissimo Putin happy. Stories like this fit the bill perfectly.

    Of course, you don't have a shred of evidence that Joe Biden saw a cent of the alleged money and neither does Derkach, but I don't imagine that will stop you asserting it as fact. Gotta keep up the distractions.
     
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