I didn't need to. You asked why a doctor needs to be involved, and I answered. I didn't compare abortion directly to guns. I compared the situation of legislating things that exist outside your body to something that exists entirely within it. If the government can legislate a uterus, something that exists entirely within a woman's body, than they have every authority to legislate less personal things like health care and guns.
No I didn't ask why a doctor needs to be involved. I asked, "how exactly is having a doctor kill what is inside them an example of them exercising their right to their body?" So try answering that. Again, if abortion was removed from the health system, how would women have lost the right to their body? They could still do whatever the hell they want with their body! They would just have one less option. Except there is the Second Amendment. On the other hand, there is no right to abortion or healthcare. And I still have no idea what the hell it means to "legislate a uterus." Legislate a person doesn't even make sense, let alone a body part!
I'll say it again, yes it would be. I don't want anyone's rights to be taken away! Overturning Roe v Wade would not be taking away anyone's rights!
FoxHastings said: ↑ ...and no ,you did not answer : "So you think It is underhanded, hateful, disgusting to attempt to take away the rights of Americans.. You left out : ""Uh, can you see how this would reflect on you? Why would you not mind being seen as ""underhanded, hateful, disgusting"" No, it would not take away women's right to their own bodies (it didn't give them that right) but then women would not have protection from those underhanded, hateful, disgusting people who don't want them to have the right to their own bodies. IF Anti-Choicers had a GOOD reason to overturn RvW then why would they need to be underhanded?
"One less option" means they could NOT do what they want. How many "options" are you willing to lose before you realize the government took ALL your options. When pregnant, a woman has two options, take away one option and there are NO options
Read the links, medical and government websites and yes businesses using our common language. Right now, your OB or midwife is monitoring the health of your unborn baby. Try offering something credible to refute it before you attack someone else's.
Well an abortion in the health system is a GOVERNMENT option. Not every option in life is from the government, so options that are NOT from the government but the government takes away is an example of the government taking away our freedoms. That's true unless there is the option of having an illegal one, or traveling overseas.
Why would I be seen as "underhanded, hateful or disgusting" if I do NOT think that it's okay to "attempt to take away the rights" of people? We agree with eachother on this so I'm not sure what you're talking about! Where is this 'right to body' defined? How are they being "underhanded?"
How many "options" are you willing to lose before you realize the government took ALL your options. Those are NOT options when it comes to PREGNANCY....in PREGNANCY there are ONLY two options, gestation or abortion...take one away and there is NO "option".
You agreed it would be ""underhanded, hateful, disgusting to attempt to take away the rights of Americans..""" We agree on nothing. You have been repeatedly given the definition of bodily autonomy....if you can't understand it YET I really can't help you. That is NOT an answer to : IF Anti-Choicers had a GOOD reason to overturn RvW then why would they need to be underhanded?
It depends what the options. Yes, and abortion can be the preferred option of someone even if it isn't an option in the health system of their state.
Yes, but I'm not saying that it would be okay, but you seemed to accuse me of wanting to take away people's rights. You don't agree that it would be underhanded, hateful and disgusting to attempt to take away the rights of people? Uh, okay! What is an example of "bodily autonomy" other than being able to have an abortion? You haven't explained how they're being "underhanded."
, chris155auWell-Known Member Joined: Jul 4, 2017 Messages: 16,738 Likes Received: 1,383 Trophy Points: 113 Gender: Male ↑ Chris155au responds: ""Would there be a problem with that? """ chris155au, Monday at 7:45 AM Report Banning abortion is taking away people's rights. You are confusing me with yourself You have been repeatedly given the definition of bodily autonomy....if you can't understand it YET I really can't help you. I don't have to. And you are just trying to avoid answering : IF Anti-Choicers had a GOOD reason to overturn RvW then why would they need to be underhanded?
Yeah, notice how I didn't say that it would be "hateful" and "disgusting." And I was referring to circumventing Roe v Wade as raised by @HonestJoe, which wouldn't be taking away anyone's rights.
Honest Joe posted : It seems like you don't think a legitimate argument against Roe vs Wade could be legitimately won so you're supporting an underhanded trick to circumvent it. And you responded: Chris155au responds: ""Would there be a problem with that? """ As if you didn't know there's a problem with being underhanded...you had to ask... most people know there is a problem with being underhanded...it is NOT a nice thing...
I refuted you and others and remain unrefutted as the links show including our own government Department of Health and Human Services.