This can be said of Climate Alarmists as well

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  1. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that none of his predictions have come true yet." Isaac Deutscher, at a party in his honor at Oxford in 1964
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Climatologists predicted coral reef die off. We have coral reef die off.
    Climatologists predicted stronger hurricanes and stronger Typhoons. We have had stronger hurricanes and Typhoons.
    Climatologists predicted higher sea levels. We have higher sea levels.
    Climatologists predicted warmer average temperatures. We have warmer average temperatures.

    Methinks you don't know what the **** you are talking about.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My prediction. One of these days, a huge meteor will wipe out all life on earth. It might be tomorrow or it might be a billion years from now, but it will happen.
     
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    Some coral reefs are growing.
    Damage by hurricanes are more a function of where they strike than the intensity. No evidence they are increasing in intensity.
    There are higher sea levels near the equator, but higher sea levels near the poles.
    We also have cooler temperatures. It depends on your baseline.
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Me thinks you have been brainwashed. Study Chris Landsea and how the IPCC dealt with the foremost expert in cyclones when he objected to them misrepresenting his research in their alarmist document.

    Check out the prophet of Climate Change, Barack Obama. While claiming the seas are going to swallow the coastlines, he invested $15M in a mansion on that very coastline. Sea Levels have been rising for millenia

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    Give us the percentage of coral reefs that are expanding compared to those that are dying back. Might want to start with Great Barrier reef.
    Hurricane and Typhoon intensity is not measured by damage, they're measured by wind speed and duration. The number of Cat 4 and 5 storms has increased nearly 70% in the last 30 years.
    Like you said, sea level has risen. Climatologists predicted sea levels would rise.
    Latest data shows that over 85% of the Earth has been in a warming trend while 2.5% of the Earth is in a cooling trend.

    Methinks you don't know what the **** you are talking about.
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Dude - I live on a barrier island. I can look out my window and see flooding at high tide right now, this hour, that didn't used to happen. We have added millions of dollars in new pumps to deal with sea water intrusion.
     
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    Yes. Lets start with the Great Barrier Reef. The Australians are sending tourists out there by the thousands. All those boats and people damage the reef. I have been there. While I was there I could see numerous boats loaded with tourists who go in the water with either SCUBA gear or snorkels.
    After coming down from a peak in the previous thirty years.
    The sea levels have been rising for thousands of years.
    Again, it all depends on what year you use as a reference.
     
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    Perhaps you should move to Martha's Vineyard. The Obama's are confident they have no worries.
     
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    Like me, they can afford to lose the home. I wouldn't live here if I also didn't have property in Montana.
     
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    ,,,, Or they used Climate Alarmism to drive down the price of their prospective mansion to a level they could afford. Similar purchasing strategies were used by alarmists who predicted regular and strong cyclones before buying yachts.
     
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    Dude - I spend 80% of my time around the yachting industry. If you can find one yacht sale to a Climatologist, you need to post it.
     
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    Four category 5 hurricanes have come ashore: the 1935 Labor Day hurricane (the strongest ever), Karen in 1962, Camille in 1969, and Andrew in 1992. I don't know about category 4s.
    Of the 30 costliest Atlantic hurricanes, when accounting for inflation six have occurred since 1990.

    In any case the regressive analysis shows very little and the mathematical correlation between hurricanes and global warming is positive but near zero -- not to mention mathematical cause and effect.
     
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    So Coral reefs have never died off at any time other then today?
    We have never had stronger hurricanes or Typhoons on earth before now?
    The sea levels have never been higher in earths history then they are today?
    The earth has never had higher temperatures then we see today?

    WOW, that must pretty alarming to people that don't no know the real answers to those questions :)
     
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    The OP was trying to claim that nothing climatologist claimed had come true. It was a demonstratively false statement.
    And the big difference now is the rate of change and the FACT that 4 billion people now live in impacted areas.
     
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    Yes but what is the truth? The climate is far more stable the now then a billion years ago, correct. How long has man actually recorded weather or climate changes? How does anyone know what the normal cycles of climate and weather anomalies are or have been over the past billion years or say the last hundred million years? What scientist can accurately predict or prove the suns billion years solar activity and cycle that no human has every witnessed. For all we know there are million year instances where a slightly greater concentrations of hydrogen nuclei is present and increases the reaction slightly enough to raise the temp here on earth?

    I mean really, it take the sun 220 million years to orbit the galaxy dragging us with it and Scientist think they have this journey mapped and understands what lay ahead and what has happened 220 million years ago..

    What arrogance they possess :)
     
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    Is this before or after you link your claims?
     
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    Hydrogen nuclei, how funny. The hydrogen nucleus is but a single proton.
     
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    Hey, if the meteor could come tomorrow, why don't you live the highlife and spend all of your retirement funds on booze and women today? Why care about tomorrow, if we are all doomed by the meteor strike anyway?
     
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    OK, and is that the extent of your lesson for me today on the subject? Hell, I didn't even need my pencil and notepad for that ;)
     

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