Well it DOES matter Rene, because you previously said that your daughter was of less value when she was a zygote. Then, you answered "correct" in response to me asking you if there was no difference in value between pre-birth and post-birth, which means that at SOME point in the birth, your daughter was of no less value than post-birth. At what point was that?
Why are you so interested in what Rene felt or thought? It border's on obsession (and harassment)…..no matter what you think Rene thinks she is just one woman and all women do NOT think alike... so no matter what her answer is , it doesn't hold true for all women.... AND, of course, you really have no point......could you find one???
Because I respect her as a member of this forum. In your opinion. Oh I think that any mother would say that their precious child was of no less value when it started to kick them than after it was born.
again you’re playing with words. A woman who has a miscarriage her second month cannot say her 5 year old child is as precious. But I have to admit if I had had sex and conceived on Saturday instead of Sunday, I would have had a child who discovered the cure for all cancers. Oh, how I miss her (sarcasm alert)
She is one women and doesn't claim to speak for ALL women. Yup. There ya go again, TELLING women what they feel or think...….HINT: They don't listen to YOU. Have you been a mother? Just asking because you think you know how they ALL think and feel ...
So obsessed with abortion when their God has his only Son sacrificed and killed to show how much he loves us..
Laughable argument. And I haven't made ONE SINGLE religious argument against abortion in my entire time on this forum, and from what I can tell, neither has anyone.
Really I should do as you and try to render females into hideous creatures because they may have had an abortion or support someone's ability to get an abortion? And what makes you think I was addressing you, guilty conscience?
No, I render elective abortion doctors as hideous creatures. Were you not addressing anyone who is against abortion?
I hope he reads my book about what it feels like to be kicked in the balls by a horse Yes there is a huge difference between a zygote and a toddler.I value my toddler because that is a real child and a fetus is a personified child
Rene, when did I even mention "ZEF?" I asked you what you were referring to when you said that there was no difference in value. Unless you meant that there IS a difference?
Funny, a lot of women don't see childbirth as agony. Of course there are some that prefer to "cut a child to pieces". I don't view women as either "breeding machines" or "irresponsible/nymphomaniac sex machines" though they do imply the same nature.
Funny, a lot do. And it is their decision if they want to go through with it or not. Whether or not someone "sees" childbirth as agony doesn't matter, it can be agony....it doesn't stop being agony for some women because somenone else doesn't "see" it that way. Who? When? Where? How many? What does "imply the same nature " mean?
Childbirth is so much fun. No pain because after all you’re a guy and you should know. Interesting that you think women will cut a child to pieces. Last I heard cutting a child is illegal but we aren’t talking about children but if you insist on personifying a ZEF go ahead.If you insist on having a woman breed against her will then you are reducing her to a breeding machine I think every time a guy masturbates he is destroying a potential child
Renee, com'on and get real. You called it child birth. It seems to suggest a child is in the womb and soon to be born. Often that child is cut to pieces by an abortionist (man or woman) with the consent of a potential mother. I can't imagine the pain of childbirth. Perhaps it is like getting kicked in the balls four or five times, I don't know. Have you ever experienced that? I do know that on this earth sometimes we are given pain in order that we might experience an overwhelming "Blessing". In this case, it is the gift of life. Many women actually look forward to it. A women breeds when she is committing the sexual act. At least that is the way with mares and studs. When she conceives .....that is the spark of life. To have a women breed against her will it would be rape......a very small fraction of conceptions.
Sounds to me like the noun "ZEF" is a new way the secular uses to dehumanize and legitimize the killing of children.
