Pentagon will send more than 50 F-35s to Europe to deter Russia

No air defenses of major significance .. what kind of defenses were you thinking ?

And we didn't use an F-35. Tuesday’s airstrikes — the first U.S. use of the F-35A conventional takeoff and landing model at war — follow the combat employment Israel Defense Forces’ F-35As in May 2018 and U.S. Marine Corps’ F-35Bs in September 2018.

 

yes free countries are our interest

 

Don't even know what I am supposed to be looking for in the video's ? What then would be the point...

Any fool can post a bunch of video's some 1/2 hour in length say "its in there" - sending someone on a wild goose chase. in this case - you won't even state what kind of goose I am looking for - you won't state what in the video refutes any claims or representations I have made - or stated where - so it is doubly pointless.

Stealth is not invisible - and you have not quantified were on the spectrum stealth ranks against the best modern air defenses - including planes.

All you have done is avoided questions with respect to assessing how good stealth really is - and engaged in name calling - . and demonization of the messenger tactics.

 

90% for the US own needs.

 

That is only in peacetime and over water and unhospitable terrain which is why the U.S. Navy, Marines, Canada, and Australia preferred the two engine F/A-18.

In wartime it has little relevance as very few two engine aircraft (unless specifically designed for that like the A-10) can survive critical battle damage to one engine.

Besides the Tornado's you've talked about replacing are not fighters. They are specifically built as low level attack aircraft. Basically bombers. So things like top speed and acceleration are of little importance.

 

All your questuons are answered.


No one ever said steslth = invisible.
It's low observable.
Nothing on earth can see it before its too late that's invisible enough.

Past dogfights against other planes ha e been with the f35 g limiter set at 7 gs
It is not capable of 9 gs. It is also of extremely high angle of attack and manuverability in post the post stall environment. Also previous dogfight criticism has been with pilots coming out of f 15s and didn't know how to effectively fly the f 35. Now f 35 air to air tactics have been developed.

Points being

1. It kills ground targets before they know they are under attack due to low observables
2. They kill any threat in the air most of them before they know they are under atrack
3. In the case of a close in dogfight. As always the better pilot with the better tactics are going to win, and because of our training that will usually be the American.
4. The f 35 isn't a pos, stealth is NOT a scam as you suggested.
5. The f35 has nothing to fear at this time either on the ground or in the air.


If you won't listen to the experts you are choosing to be wrong.

 

Trump won’t stop insisting that stealth planes are invisible ...

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-stealth-planes-invisible-2ef5bbbd959f

Jul 24, 2018 · There’s just one problem — despite what Trump says, stealth planes are not invisible. “Stealth” refers to the capabilities the planes have to avoid detection, but the planes are still ...

 

Think Progress is crap

what Trump says about the f 35 is irrelevant

 

Stealth is a scam with respect to how it was touted. The F-35 is over reliant on stealth - and because stealth does not work as well as touted - the F-35 is SOL if stealth does not work as well as touted.

That is why it is a scam - a scam to send money to Lockheed Martin. This plane has been described by nations such as Australia as a flying turkey. It is not just spray that states this.

You have not taken one thing that Spray has stated - with respect to stealth - and showed it was wrong.

 

The F-35's real world performance proves Sprey wrong..

 

Why you think our military considers f 35 trash and choses a more expensive solution?

 

Doesn't it scare you that you and I are so much smarter than Trump?

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1021805736958074881


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After he crumbled in front of putin, the turks, and north korea......If i were a foreign leader assessing tump.... would be thinking paper tiger

 

Flying Turkeys Attack Hunters

 

no not really..

 

No. We are holding German Citizens and other European nationals that left to join ISIS. Now we are pulling out and various countries are refusing to take their citizens back. They figure that we can just incarcerate them, absorbing the cost and the danger of having them in the US. Trump no longer lets Europe put a "kick me" sign on the US and has warned that if you do not take your folks back, we will turn them loose. It's your choice. Now grow up and accept responsibility for your people.

Part of the NATO self-defense treaty is that we act collectively in the security of all those in the alliance. The point of this new gas line is so that Russia can cut off NATO countries that they have a beef with, without cutting off Germany. The main point of the NATO alliance is protect Europe from Russia. If Germany wants to cut deals with Russia that screw others in the Alliance you really don't fit in the alliance any more. That Germany thinks they can cut side deals with Russia, while relying on the alliance to defend them from Russia, and not make their military funding and readiness commitments, they aren't so much a partner as a free-loader. We are losing all patience with free-loaders. And frankly I don't know that we are need to spend our blood and treasure on free-loaders.

I see many advantages to Germany building it's own fighter and striving to equal or exceed the performance of the top aircraft in the alliance. I think that would make you a very valuable member, and would be a great goal for you to strive for.

 

if Germany makes a plane that is better for our pilots than we make we should buy it or develop something better yet.

 

Modern wars will be asymmetric and/or decided by information warfare/perception management. Likely they will not be decided by expensive fighter planes stationed in Europe. Why do we spend money and resources to defend Europe (socialistic countries that to a large degree hate and disparage the US) and our border is wide open? Both the Dims and Republicans fully support the Military Industrial Complex and ignore the fact that we are 22 Trillion dollars in debt. Why can't Europe defend Europe?

 

Ah so. The Domino Theory.

 

As a US taxpayer I don't give a flying [expletive] about Syria or Afghanistan. I wish there could be a special neocon tax for you people to pay for this endless war stuff.

 

In part, maybe a large part, this is about Nordstream II pipeline..

 

1. Its not our people. Its some 3rd world arabs who got a german passport. You can shot them. We pay you the ammo. Or give them iraq to execute them. By threatening us with terror attacks, you break the alliance.

2. Russian gas is 30% cheaper. Add the fact that never anyone helped us. Eastern Europe would neber help us but expect that we carry the burden. No. I dont want pay 30% more to heat my home.

You tell a german worker he has to pay 30% more to make some ukrainians happy?

Would you pay 30% to fianance mexico?

 

You guys started it, now you're running away, just like Vietnam and Iraq.

 

Why don’t you shoot them?