Pentagon will send more than 50 F-35s to Europe to deter Russia

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  1. APACHERAT

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    If progressives in California can tax cow farts, pretty sure taxing neocon farts is next.
     
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    The proper term is “ Paper Tiger”
     
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    The Germans are world's finest craftsmen, if they set their minds to it, I'm absolutely sure they could come up with designs and features that others in the Alliance would benefit from, as they, ours. That's synergy is exactly what helps all of us.
     
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    You've described Germany's military procurement system as being horrendous (my word, not yours). In light of that who knows why they would prefer to develop their own rather than buy an established aircraft already in production that the R & D has already been performed on and that half a dozen NATO countries have already chosen.

    Rampant nationalism could be a factor.
     
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    I think that can be arranged, that we send the firing squad into your prison camps there
     
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    We see the aircraft not matching our expectations.

    Beside that, we are an industrial power. Why should we buy something that we can build ourself?

    All your Nato allies who bought it are 2nd tier countries incapable to build that.

    Or do you compare shitholes like poland with Germany?
     
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    Just because most people (including you apparently) have no idea what "stealth" actually refers to doesn't mean the F-35 is not a useful combat aircraft.

    And if Australia thinks so badly about the F-35 why are they buying them? Same with United Kingdom and various other nations? You seriously think they are doing so because they are that obligated to Lockheed Martin.

    Finally, the F-35 was never meant to be a world beating do everything combat aircraft. It was designed to be a relatively cheap and affordable combat aircraft option to replace a number of aircraft used by the U.S. and its allies.
     
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    We didn't make them German citizens, the Germans did. You own them.
    You take custody of them, and shoot them or turn them over to someone else to execute. We aren't doing that for you.
    We are simply making sure you understand the consequences of not taking custody of your own citizens. If you don't, we are turning them lose and yes, they could pose a threat to you. That is why you should take custody of your citizens and deal with them as you see fit.
    We protected you from the USSR throughout the Cold War. Berlin would have fallen decades ago without our efforts.
    If those who make decisions for you feel that your interests are better served by cutting a side deal with Russia, that allows Russia to cut off gas to other members of the alliance, then clearly you don't belong in the alliance. I'm clear on your position, I do not know that your leadership shares it.
    Ukraine isn't in NATO.
    Mexico is not in NATO
     
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    IIRC currently Poland fields a larger military than Germany.

    And I doubt anyone other than you and a couple of other Germans would consider United Kingdom a "shithole" country. I hate that term by the way.
     
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    Sure.
    Those prisoners are being let go because killing them is a war crime.
    You want to shoot them - shoot them on arrival and have blood on your hands.
     
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    Proof you and your kind are not done being stigmatized for the pure evil crap y'all pulled. Germany deserves the knee on it's neck.
     
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    I'm not familiar with the positions of AfD. I've gotten the impression that they hold racist views. In our system those that join may be of any nationality so long as they are firmly committed to the rule of law, the securing of individual rights and that sovereign rests in The People. So for us, it's how you think, act and behave, not your blood lines that tells the story.
     
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    Poland has to have a larger military than Germany.

    Poland is where Germany and Russia fight their wars against each other.

    Think about it, in 1941 Germany had to attack Poland to be able to get into position to attack Russia.

    Russia did the same thing, attacked Poland from the east so it's army would already be in Poland to fight Germany's army.

    Poland has always been where Europe fights its wars.

    Poland should start charging other countries to fight in Poland.
     
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    If course I know what Stealth refers to - much better than you - and the question is not "is it useful"
     
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    Manpads are not much of a threat to fighter aircraft.
     
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    Im from Thüringen. Former eastern Germany. So your argument is invalid.

    Poland is in NATo and hostile to Germany.
     
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    Poland has a smaller military and is a 3rd world country.

    And please have you visited UK? Its a shithole
     
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    Their blood is worthless and at best a good fertilizer.
     
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    I don't agree with your first comment but the rest is ok
     
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    We have no knee on our neck comrade.
     
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    I respect your system and expect respect of ours.
     
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    Goodbye forever Sobo
     
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    Germany invaded poland in 1939, not 1941...
     

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