I truly do fear for our country, just as an American

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Balto, Oct 28, 2019.

  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    MPO, nothing said could possible put the democrat/leftist in a darker place. Their biggest motivator is corruption of thought and the paranoid illogic thinking that a SINGLE man in four/eight years could possible destroy a country!
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Really? I read it here many MANY times.. But then again, PF has a long history of very large race baited threads. It seems to be quite popular here :)
     
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  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sadly I do as well, the debt in increasing, climate change is on it's way, will people be able to unite to get through these things or turn to the "blame" it on "others" and start a civil war... I already hear republicans talking about civil war, it's crazy
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    cheating on his wives, abusing the law, attacking gold star families and war hero's, the list goes on.. is that the values Trump supporters really support?

    Trump is part of the me me me generation all he thinks about is himself, country and party mean nothing to him
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There would only be a civil war if the government tried to disarm civilians, including assault rifles. That's probably not going to happen, so I wouldn't worry about it. That would be governmental suicide.
     
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    Excuse me, but exactly which party started complaining seconds after Trump was elected and organized march after march against everything he did, and when did the late night "entertainers" go off on a anti-Trump tangent seconds after their show started, and when did every Hollywood self aggrandizing award show turn political to the point of receiving all time low ratings, and when did a few overpaid ******* athletes decide it was a good time to disrespect the national anthem, and when did any conservative Trump supporter be blocked from giving speeches at PUBLIC Universities while far lefties were welcomed with open arms, and which side deems it OK to shout down conservative commentators and their families eating dinner at a public restaurant, and which side throws urine at people coming out of a Trump rally?
    Now, tell me who the **** started all the dividing in this country, the republicans or the democrats?

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    I think that is a male on the right holding a sign, imagine that poor bastards homelife.
     
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  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you mean from violent people that demand mass shooters have their ar-15, no one is saying you can't own machine guns or ar-15, just that they should be harder to buy - and should be removed from people that talk about killing people
     
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    we don't need to vote for FOR anything...we only need to vote AGAINST communism.
    At least half of all Trumper's probably don't even like him, but they hate the vile left way more.
    Recently a study was done that shows 1 in 3 millenials believe communism would work well in america.
    When paired up against that you really think we give a flying shyt about how many porn stars trump nailed?
     
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    American? I thought you were a progressive. Will wonders never cease!!
     
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    It is the liberal progressives and establishment politicians that are causing the divide. Trump has the support of the American people. The globalists are the ones trying to destroy the country.
     
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    Then you think like one of those I described. You collect things you don't like or can twist, and call it the whole picture - and deceive yourself.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    I'm actually for giving people freedom. Giving women the choice to have a abortion, and keeping the government out of it (pro-choice). Legalizing marihuana at the federal level so people can enjoy it without prosecution. Empowering the LGBT community that is still somewhat taboo today depending on the region of the country, which is why I'm strongly against Anti-LGBT businesses like Chick-Fil A. Being progressive benefits the human condition, freedom benefits the human condition.
     
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    many on the right support Trump as their moral leader, are you saying you denounce these things Trump has done?
     
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    Socialism isn't the same as communism.

    Name me one proposal by any one Democratic candidate that would turn us into China, which is a communist country.

    Presidents have to have standards to be good representatives to the world. If you had a employee who was constantly stirring up trouble, offending customers, and making it known he was doing it on purpose, would you think that employee is a good, honorable representative of the company or would you kick him out the door? A president is the American People's employee. Bill Clinton wasn't perfect, but he had charisma. Barack Obama wasn't perfect, but he spoke with class. Bush Jr wasn't perfect, lord knows he made tons of political mistakes, but he spoke with strength. Trump does none of those things. Notice I took notable people from both parties, and say they're both imperfect. Imperfection is partisan.

    Sanders isn't perfect, but he is respectful in debates. We need respect, class and decency in the White House, and next year is our opportunity to do it. And I'm not talking political correctness either,.
     
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    LOL.

    Yes you are.

    You are exactly talking about Republicans, and you conveniently ignore that democrats have been on a witch hunt and lynching mob since before Trump even won.

    No president has ever been treated like Trump has by the opposing party. Never.

    But now, since democrats are so good at it, play victim.

    You don't get to continually poke and poke, and then be upset that they fight back.
     
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    I think that if you expect any president to be perfect, you are in fantasy land. It's a job that requires a tough, aggressive and powerful person- and that will not be goody two shoes. Nor will it need to be criminal or someone without honor. All presidents and major politicians have kept a public image separate from reality. Hillary- better at fooling people than most. JFK's father Joe once told him that "What you are doesn't matter in politics- it's what people think you are that matters". Trump is the first president to be up front and transparent- and the people who are also guilty of Trumps' faults but not in the spotlight line up to pretend they are righteous... as if not faking an identity was more acceptable than being open.

    The left wants the right to "admit" Trump has faults so they can gains new points to attack positions. Yet, they deny the incredible crap that the dems have pulled and the way they have acted since the day Trump said he would run- and don't see a thing wrong with that. These fools would attempt to impeach Trump for saying the sky is blue, because sometimes it's not. It's that pathetic.

    Trump isn't perfect. Just a lot less imperfect than anything the dems have come up with or are likely to, given the collection of psychotics that they currently embrace and have have running for office.
    The nation has never seen such a collection of fakers, phonies and screwballs in one election in history.
     
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    But- Trump on the other hand actually gets things done.
    Polished speaking (Obama style) does not. Not knowing crap and always asking your staff what to say before you speak (Shrub style) is not leadership, it's puppetry. Telling people what they want to hear when it's BS in patronizing. (both the Shrub and Obama). Getting BJ's from the staff on company time in the office (Clinton) is a bit off the profile of good leadership as well. Then Sanders.... is a man who has spent his life trying to avoid honest work. Was kicked out of a commune once- because he wouldn't do his share.

    But they are OK.....

    Priorities matter. We need uncomfortable truth much more than comfortable lies. We need results more than promises- and we need promises that are kept whenever possible.
    The job IS NOT making everybody happy in a popularity contest. It's reaching the objectives.
     
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    Kamala Harris wanting to ban voices she disagrees with from private sector communication modes. Given the power of the presidency, she would take that to the next level ,,, use the government to silence critics. She also threatened to punish attendees at a meeting if they didn't eject the group that invited Trump and send them to re-education camp.

    We didn't need Kamala. We already had Obama and Clapper spying on millions of Americans, denying those who disagree the ability to fund free speech. We are about to confirm that Obama enlisted his intel agencies in collusion with those of our allies to frame members of the campaign that opposed his third term.

    There are many more examples where those came from.
     
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    Oh, don't give me that BS. There are MANY politicians who are wanting just that, and you know it.
     
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    no one expects Trump to be perfect, in fact we expect he never will be even close to perfect
     
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    We never expect any president to be perfect. Who would be so naive? Name the last president that was even CLOSE to perfect and anyone can name you countless lies/flaws/poor judgement.
     
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    Trump has been the furthest from it, but at least we can agree Trump is not perfect
     
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    We realize he hurts your little feelings. You've made that clear. What was asked was:
     
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    "I truly do fear for our country, just as an American", as do I. This country is a reflection of its politicians and there has been a steady decline over the last 40 years.

    This country's decline will continue to spiral at a greater rate as we move forward as the people are made more extremist by each election cycle being fanned by the politicians and media.

    If/when the democrats get back to dominate the federal government I expect another mass exodus of wealth from this country. This is a capitalist country everything is for sale and always will be.

    The rest of the world will be there to purchase anything of value left, while we bicker over our petty differences and our elected and non-elected leaders will be eager to sell.

    We will be a larger copy of Greece in 2044, in debt, owned by foreigners who will take their profits home with them, as we frolic in our anything goes society.
     
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    Oh really? I've heard very clear reasons .. and all of them relate to his outrageous diviseness and his almost complete destruction of the great gains made in race relations during the last years of the 20thC and early years of the 21stC.
     
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