Lt. Col. Vindman didn't think the call was so perfect.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yikes! You had to go deep in to the vault of right wing conspiracy theories to dig that one out.
    https://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/03/24/president-obama-purge-military/

    So.........those are the types of whataboutisms I'm talking about. Since.......you know.........you can't figure out a way to defend Duplicitous Don.
     
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    I can't refute what you won't supply.
     
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    That I find troubling. It's not the job of Army officers to establish foreign policy. Maybe that will be the norm if the Democrats pull off their coup, but until then that's primarily an executive branch decision.
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's no shortage of posts to choose from. I get that you're trying to be cheeky. But the fact remains you can refute what I write. I'm right here any time you want to try.
     
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    You do know, I hope, that calling it "hoax" is not going to make the evidence in the Mueller Report that Trump is a criminal go away, I hope.

    But if it makes you feel better, don't let me stop you. Just make sure you don't land to hard when you seen him on TV being hauled to prison, as soon as we get rid of his corrupt DOJ.

    I have no idea what the chances are. I believe Fox gave it a 20% chance. But that was before the Ukraine case turned really ugly. However, I'm not concerned with what partisan Republicans do. I'm more interested in getting the facts out so Americans will see them.
     
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    This is LITERALLY what you were bleating 3 years ago and this is what you will still be bleating 5 years from now. Lol

    Your unwavering faith that Russia collusion wasn't a hoax is actually kinda sweet. Never lose hope.

    :roflol::roflol:
     
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    I was "LITERALLY bleating" 3 years ago that the Mueller Report proved that he's a criminal and that Fox gave him a 20% chance of being removed?

    Ok... That says all we need to know about your "intellectual honesty" (or lack thereof)
     
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    You're right sweetie, Mueller found that Trump colluded with Russia and frog marched him out of the White House. And Jared too. Just like you said he would. Don't listen to those mean people who laugh at you when you tell them this, they're jealous that you were right. Just don't get upset, relax, mommie will make you a cup of warm milk and tuck you in.
     
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    Yep! But that's the least of the crimes that Mueller found Trump committed.

    I'd ask you to try to keep up, but that might be too traumatic for you... honey....
     
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    Yes you are here ALL the time, writing and posting away, but without much in the way of facts. Which of course is fine, this is a forum of opinions after all,but you don't have a great Trump era record of being right. You simply toss out a hundred or so accusations and insults a week, and then feel pretty good about yourself. OK, but you are not trying to make a case, simply cheerleading for people who already feel like you.

    The fact is, I've already challenged you for actual facts and you failed to deliver, so I won't be holding my breath.
     
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    Which of course didn't happen...but hey...that's what you do...make false claims
     
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    He can say what he wants, but we've all seen the transcript. There's nothing wrong with the phone call. Both parties in the call agree there was nothing wrong. Posterity is going laugh so hard at you guys.
     
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    The God Father makes"an offer he can't refuse" and the recipient of that "offer" supports the God Father.

    Oh....
     
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    Wishful thinking isn't gonna hold up in court.
     
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    What we've seen is an incomplete summary of the transcript. Even so, there is enough there for two articles of impeachment. One, for abuse of power in Don's use of his office to try to extort Zelensky in to giving him material to be used against a political opponent. The second due to the act described above being illegal.
     
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    The fact is, all you have are empty words and false accusations you can't back up. But please do try.
     
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    Vindman isn't alone.

    Trump Ambassador Nom Doesn’t Seem To Think Trump’s Ukraine Call Was ‘Perfect’
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...ullivan-disagree-ukraine-political-assistance

    "John Sullivan, deputy secretary of State and President Donald Trump’s nominee for ambassador to Russia, apparently doesn’t agree that it’s okay for a president to try to push foreign countries to investigate his political rivals – something Trump did during a call with the Ukrainian president in July."
     
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    What Vindman thinks is irrelevant. It's just an opinion. Everyone can read the transcript for himself or herself. Above all, the Ukrainian president flatly rejected all conspiracy theories spewed by U.S democrats/liberals about being pressurised by Trump into doing something he did not want to do. The fact remains that Trump's administration helped Ukraine far more then Obama's administration when it comes to the military aid.
     
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    “Soliciting investigations into a domestic political opponent…I don’t think that would be in accord with our values,” Sullivan responded.
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...ullivan-disagree-ukraine-political-assistance

    It would be surreal if we weren't dealing with Trumpette's that while we have the partial transcript clearly showing Don's quid pro quo effort, Mulvaney admitting it, Sondland admitting it, and witness after witness after witness confirming it..................Don's blind devotees still deny it.
     
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    For all your denials, Biden and his son's activities were suspicious. I am fairly sure that if it had been Trump, you would be wanting an investigation. We have no power to investigate in the Ukraine. That would have to be done by Ukraine.
     
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    Of course.
     
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    I see. I really need to break it down in very simple terms for you to understand. The Ukrainian president is the main BICTIM/witness. Trump is as always accused one. Orange man bad no matter what.

    Analogy. Think about the court case. The victim takes the stand and says the accused one is innocent. You would like a complete fool trying to prosecute someone who has been cleared of any wroingdoings by a supposed victim.
     
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    The endless babble of BS is somehow crudely fascinating, like watching a dinosaur take a dump might be. How can anyone ignore one side of a story, and fabricate another? Do you think for example, that the arm-chair quarterbacks should be judging the plays, that courts should just ask those on the sidelines (so long as they are dems/libs) what kind of decision they should reach?
    OF COURSE YOU DO. It's blatantly obvious, and wrong to all except you.
     
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    Wait........did you say something? Hmmmmmmmmmmm, nope, just :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:
     
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    Lt. Col. Vindman didn't think the call was so perfect.

    That settles it. Impeach him!!
     

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