We should try to pass gun control on the ballot.

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  1. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    Are they all cartel members? We probably have more guns in any major city than El Salvador has in their whole population but we don't see the crime rate you predict. The reason for that is law enforcement when guns are used for a criminal act.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you would get rid of the 4th amendment and great;y weaken the 5th also. Nice plan. Why not just form a complete police state under totalitarianism and use the constitution to start bonfires?
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    No. okay they have 12 guns for every 100 people. Still does not midigate the fact that they are a cartel state that peaked at 105 per 100,000 homicide rate in 2016. Gun Anarchy=El Salvador situation.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    There is no right to privacy in public. Or on the internet. The 5th amendment is not weakened by the government being able to prove everyone without any doubt guilty of a crime if they commit one.

    It actually strengthens the 5th amendment because then no false accusations.
     
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    Sad but how does that translate to we need more gun laws here?
     
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    "Assault weapons are prohibited and are defined as any gun in which more than 5 bullets can be loaded at one time."

    Assault six-shooters? That's a first.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Its a round about way of banning mags and belts
     
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    How to start a civil war 101
     
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    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And revolvers, apparently.

    Better not miss.
     
  10. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that there are enough laugh emoticons/gifs/pictures in the world that could demonstrate just how much I am laughing at this......garbage of a proposal that completely ignores reality.
     
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    Both since one can help protect the other.
     
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    What has that got to do with anything?
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And these are the people that leftist NGOs are creating caravans for to come to America (central Americans). That certainly will not affect our murder rate will it? I will believe leftists care about the murder rate when they quit raising holy hell every time we attempt to deport a convicted violent felon or stopping illegals from crossing the border.
     
  14. Sackeshi

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    The fact that the proposal does not ban them
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Wow...talking about a HUGE Rights infringement. Not only do you want to gun grab but you also want to violate peoples Right to Privacy? Which title would you prefer...communist or dictator?
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Why would a criminal leave El Salvador for the states? Criminals control the country. It's all innocents that come from that country.
     
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    So what is 3 people say you made s violent comment does that mean you lose your 1st ammendment rights?
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    There is no right to privacy outside the home or on the internet. Your home, your papers, your person. The only 3 places protected.
     
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    No!

    The crime is the unlawful discharge of a firearm.

    Not owning, nor carrying. 2nd Amendment.

    And whether I own a firearm is NOT the gov't's business
    unless I have a criminal history.




    Meanwhile with all the above as law,

    the bad guy will have a gun.



    @Sackeshi have you ever lived in a rural area?
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    As a wise civil rights activist once said "It's his problem if he wants to lynch me, it's my problem if he is able to lynch me" basically someone can say they want to kill people and do mass shootings but if they can't then no harm.
     
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    And yet the courts have ruled that that protection to privacy also involves your car, your locked cell phone and many other areas. After all, you can live in your car, your papers are in your car, and your person is in the car. And they have continually upheld that over the decades. Not to mention sending everyone a text with your personal details? Do you want to get rid of all the extension to Rights to Privacy that we have had over the last two centuries? Because part of that extension is in doctor and lawyer confidentiality, just because they're not strictly in the Constitution? Be careful what you wish for as Roe v Wade is based on a woman's Right to Privacy. Without it... bye bye abortion.

    Again, which title would you prefer?
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Yes I have lived in the country, Lived in the suburbs, lived in rural towns and lived in the city. Oh and in 5 states and 4 countries. Never have I or anyone in my family felt the need to carry a gun.

    If you have no neighbors and hunt for a living, you need not have a gun that can shoot mags or belts.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    I hate abortions. Doctors have to do with papers. Medical records but I would not care if my medical history was available im a healthy young man. Lawyers have to do with the due process amendments.

    Yes I think the extensions should go away I can understand the car since yes some people live in the car. In no way should electronics be protected by privacy. It is so dangerious.

    The text would be to scare anyone who thinks, they are bluffing a message.

    As for title if I was to become governor I would change the title to Prime executive of the republic of *insert state* :p

    2 choices would be given in that text. Leave and sign a certificate of willful banishment which could render them unable to ever come back to the state, or stay and obey.

    Btw I think this amendment would be helpful in the US constitution

    Amendment 28 No non resident of a state shall donate money to any politician or election within the state, and no non resident of a state shall be permitted to donate cases against said state in federal court, and all groups or organisations shall be prohibited from filing a in court against any state but in the state where they are registered.

    This protects the separate sovereignty of the states.
     
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    SCOTUS already has ruled the storage requirements to be unconstitutional. It has also ruled that we have an individual right to keep and bear arms. No ballot proposal can take away a basic human right legitimately.
     
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    You have to load every bullet in a magazine separately. There is no real difference. Some revolvers are loaded by clips, in which 2-6 rounds of ammunition are loaded at once.
     
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