Watchdog report finds FBI not motivated by political bias in Trump probe

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    He absolutely did, unless you believe that refusing to cooperate, lying in his written responses with respect to the Mueller Investigation, and firing people because he thought that it would stop the Russia investigation, and then trying to claim a carte blanche privilege, which doesn't exist, to prevent people in his inner circle from complying with subpoenas is wonderful and jim-dandy.
     
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    This thread is just further evidence that trumpers don't read anything that they claim to be experts on.
     
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    Maybe you should learn who he was authorized to talk to
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Normally, surveillance of American citizens would not be allowed but for the fact that they could label them “agents of a foreign power.”

    During the surveillance, The NSD unit under John Carlin was working in coordination with the FBI Counterintelligence Unit, which included Bill Priestap, Peter Strzok and others. DOJ Attorney and Strzok paramour Lisa Page was the intermediary between the DOJ National Security Division and he FBI Counterintelligence Division.

    The puzzle has been exposed by Horowitz and now it is time for Durham to track down the extent of the rotten aspects of the conspiracy.

    Being in denial about how bad the cabal of Leftists acted is so typical of those who use the word, Trumpers."
     
  5. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Words do have meaning and so do elections. The democrats were screaming to impeach before he even took office.

    His words and the words and lies of Schiff and his "comrades" will lead to Trump's election in 2020. :)
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    As long as these democrat criminals go to prison, the American people will be very happy.
     
  7. Andrew Jackson

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    Oh?

    So now you're you are backing off of the "dozen" number?

    Cool.

    Anyway, IF Durham has enough PROOF to bring charges, more power to him.
     
  8. wist43

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    Exactly...

    Comey, Strozk, Page, McCabe, Rosenstein, Brennan, Clapper, Wray, et al...

    They all should be indicted and spend significant time in prison - if not life in prison.

    I would go after members of Congress and Obama's DOJ as well. Not to mention Obama's National Security team and Obama himself.

    There is no denying that Obama was involved.
     
  9. FlamingLib

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    Then I refer you to the prosecutor example I gave earlier. Are cops and prosecutors biased against criminals? Yes, absolutely. Does it follow that cops and prosecutors can't do their job right because they have an obvious bias against accused criminals? No. It doesn't follow because biased people are able to set their biases aside when the job requires, which is what the IG report concluded.
     
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    Why don’t you post the part of the report that says what you claim.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    post your evidence that they acted in bad faith and were out to get Trump. Excerpts from the report would be appropriate.
     
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  12. Nemesis

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    Wrong again. It's remarkable that youi can keep making these accusations when they made no sense to begin with, and have now been authoritatively debunked by the IG report:

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/inspector-generals-witch-hunt-report-quick-and-dirty-analysis

    Bonespurs and his cadre of half-wits claimed:

    1.The president repeatedly accused FBI officials of “treason”—and of plotting a coup.
    2. Citing a text from Peter Strzok to Lisa Page, he declared that the Russia investigation was an “insurance policy” against his election—and that the texts between them revealed the deep political bias that drove the entire investigation.
    3.The attorney general warned darkly of FBI “spying” on the Trump campaign and publicly questioned whether the Russia investigation was properly predicated.
    4. A veritable industry arose suggesting that the investigation began earlier than the FBI acknowledged, an industry the attorney general personally helped cultivate.
    5. The president suggested that his wires had been tapped, even as Devin Nunes insisted that the FBI was engaged in illegal surveillance of Carter Page.
    6. We were assured of scandal related to the FBI’s use of confidential informants, just as we were assured that the entire investigation was predicated on the “dossier” of Christopher Steele.

    All of which were categorically debunked and rejected by one of Bonespurs' own appointees. I wonder how long before he's tossed under the bus.
     
  13. Nemesis

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    It doesn't state anything remotely like that.

    Please read it. Wow--embarrassing.

    What it does state is:

    "We found that while she attended some of the discussions, Lisa Page did not play a role in the decision to open Crossfire Hurricane or the four individual cases. Strzok was directly involved in the decisions to open Crossfire Hurricane and the four individual cases, but we found that he was not the sole, or even the highest level decision maker as to any of those matters. [Bill] Priestap, Strzok’s supervisor, told us that ultimately he was the official who made the decision to open the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, and Strzok then prepared and approved the formal documentation, as required by the DIOG. Evidence reflected that this decision by Priestap was reached by consensus after multiple days of discussions and meetings that included Strzok and other leadership in CD, the FBI Deputy Director, the FBI General Counsel, and the FBI Deputy General Counsel. We similarly found that the decisions to open the four individual cases were reached by consensus of Crossfire Hurricane agents and analysts who identified individuals associated with the Trump campaign who had recently travelled to Russia or had other alleged ties to Russia, and that Priestap was involved in those decisions. The formal documentation opening each of these four investigations was approved by Strzok, as required by the DIOG.

    We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced Priestap’s decision to open Crossfire Hurricane. The evidence also showed that FBI officials responsible for and involved in the case opening decisions were unanimous in their belief that, together with the July 2016 release by WikiLeaks of hacked DNC emails, the Papadopoulos statement described in the FFG information reflected the Russian government’s potential next step to interfere with the 2016 U.S. elections. These FBI officials were similarly unanimous in their belief that the FFG information represented a threat to national security that warranted further investigation by the FBI. Witnesses told us that they did not recall observing during these discussions any instances or indications of improper motivations or political bias on the part of the participants, including Strzok."
     
  14. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    You're confusing "presumptions" with "inferences".

    There's a big difference.
     
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    Word is getting out that democrats are now fleeing from this impeachment process. 20-30 are planning on either defecting or trying to persuade Pelosi and Schiff to drop impeachment and to try and go for censure.
     
  16. Nemesis

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    More from the IG's debunking whacko conspiracy-theory report:

    "We ... concluded that the FBI had sufficient predication to open full counterintelligence investigations of Papadopoulos, Page, Flynn, and Manafort in August 2016. The investigation of Papadopoulos was predicated upon his alleged statements in May 2016 to an employee of [an allied foreign government]. According to the opening [electronic communication], Papadopoulos was “identical to the individual who made statements indicating that he is knowledgeable that the Russians made a suggestion to the Trump team that they could assist the Trump campaign with an anonymous release of information during the campaign that would be damaging to the Clinton campaign.” The three other cases were predicated on information developed by the Crossfire Hurricane team through law enforcement database and open source searches, conducted to determine which individuals associated with the Trump campaign may have been in a position to have received the alleged offer of assistance from Russia."
     
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    *LOL*

    You must enjoy being wrong. "Word is getting out".
     
  18. Nemesis

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    The report concludes otherwise. He's just spouting off.
     
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    the important part you just posted says nothing about acting with bias. Thanks for destroying your own logic.
     
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    Go back and read my post. I would be happy with a dozen. :)

    Is that so hard to figure out?
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    What makes you more upset, The Mueller report being a dud or the IG report slamming the Obama FBI?

    lol
     
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    what makes us upset is the moron in the White House still denying Russian interference in the 2016 election. Now he is parroting the Putin line that it was Ukraine.

    And the Trump lies about spies in his campaign.

    And that the Mueller report was a witch hunt.
     
  23. Nemesis

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    They scamper off like a toddler who's been naughty.

    "Why not let him cheat one more time?"

    Rep Schiff.
     
  24. Nemesis

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    How many indictments?

    They caught a lot of "witches".
     
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    probably would have caught even more if Yrump had not obstructed the Mueller investigation.
     

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