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  1. rahl

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    you seem to think when the ruling happened is relevant in some way. It isn't. States can not leave the union without congress, as the court pointed out.
     
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    No they couldn't. Nobody has standing to challenge a previous supreme court ruling, which ruled a law unconstitutional. A new amendment is required.
     
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    They didn't leave the union, as states can not leave the union.
     
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    yes, I've proven your claim false. Texas v White. States can not secede. The ruling cites the specific language in the constitution precluding secession by the states.
     
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    You seem to think a new Supreme court cant over rule a last one it is farce, 3 separation of powers , congress can make it law but has yet to do so.
     
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    Cite the law, when the Constitution was made only 13 colonys existed


    The Constitution does not directly mention secession. ... The Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the Constitution to be an "indestructible" union. There is no legal basis a state can point to for unilaterally seceding. Many scholars hold that the Confederate secession was blatantly illegal.
    Wikipedia › wiki › Secession_in_th...
    Secession in the United States - Wikipedia
     
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    Of course they left the Union, South Carolinas army fired first on the Union army at fort sumpter there by pissing off the North.
     
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    Nobody has standing to challenge a scotus ruling. It's binding precedent, which all lower courts are bound by. Congress would have to approve a state leaving the union.
     
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    your opinion of the ruling is meaningless. This is settled law. The court has already ruled on this. States can not secede.
     
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    States can't leave the union.
     
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    It took 20 years to challenge Chicagos gun ban didn't it?
     
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    South Carolina did and its states military fired the first shots on the Union army
     
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    It's not been settled by Congress by making it a law.


    Its not in the Constitution.
     
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    Abortion never had been a made a law

    White vs Texas has never been made a law

    But both can be overturned by this Supreme Court
     
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    It's not settled never was..



    List of overruled United States Supreme Court decisions


    This is a list of decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States that have been explicitly overruled, in part or in whole, by a subsequent decision of the Court. It does not include decisions that have been abrogated by subsequent constitutional amendment or by subsequent amending statutes.

    This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.

    ConstitutionalEdit

    Article OneEdit
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    Overruled decision Overruling decision
    Hammer v. Dagenhart, 247 U.S. 251 (1918) United States v. Darby Lumber Co., 312 U.S. 100 (1941)
    Puget Sound Stevedoring Co. v. State Tax Commission, 302 U.S. 90 (1937) Department of Revenue v. Washington Stevedoring Cos., 435 U.S. 734 (1978)
    Joseph v. Carter & Weekes Stevedoring Co., 330 U.S. 422 (1947) Department of Revenue v. Washington Stevedoring Cos., 435 U.S. 734 (1978)
    Spector Motor Service v. O’Connor, 340 U.S. 602 (1951) Complete Auto Transit v. Brady, 430 U.S. 274 (1977)
    Joseph E. Seagram & Sons v. Hostetter, 384 U.S. 35 (1966) Healy v. Beer Institute, 491 U.S. 324 (1989)
    National League of Cities v. Usery, 426 U.S. 833 (1976) Garcia v. San Antonio Metropolitan Transit Authority, 469 U.S. 528 (1985)
    Quill Corp. v. North Dakota, 504 U.S. 298 (1992) South Dakota v. Wayfair, Inc., 585 U.S. ___ (2018


    More @
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    There wasn't a supreme court ruling that McDonald v Chicago overturned. As that can't happen.
     
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    States can't secede, so no, SC did not.
     
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    Congress would have to amend the constitution


    I've shown you it is.
     
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    All of which were on different merits, as you can't challenge an actual scotus ruling on the same merits.
     
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    You showed opinions I showed facts, sorry not in the Constitution.
     
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    actually I showed you the scotus ruling, which cites the specific language in the constitution. States can't secede. Sorry.
     
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    Because for not letting a state to leave the union is not giving FREEDOM to a state to do so, so do you think blacks shouldn't be free now or woman be allowed to vote, or be able to choose freedom, in the land of the free?

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    No you didnt no where in the Constitution does it mention states cant leave.


    The Constitution does not directly mention secession. ... The Supreme Court has consistently interpreted the Constitution to be an "indestructible" union. There is no legal basis a state can point to for unilaterally seceding. Many scholars hold that the Confederate secession was blatantly illegal.
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    Wikipedia › wiki › Secession_in_th...
    Secession in the United States - Wikipedia
     
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    A Supreme Court ruling that can be overturned, sorry.
     
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    Why would a state join a free nation if they didnt have an option to leave?

    What the hell would be free about it?
     
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