It’s None Of My Business If Homeless People Use The Money I Give Them For Drugs

Moving the goal post now are we? The truth hurts? Why do the cons want to invite ms13??

 

Yawn..

A vox article really, i read it anyway.
As described in the article. The vote was specifically designed by Democrats to force Republicans in swing states to vote against it..

Middle finger to congressional demoncrats.


Eliminate welfare and build the wall.

Eliminate pell grants. And. Empty sanctuary cities of illegals

Open national parks to hunting and use permit funds to post guys with guns every 200 yards on our southern border.

 

Well at least you've admitted that cons don't give a rat's behind about ms13 either.

Better idea....eliminate funding for Israel and take care of business at home.

 

Double aide to Israel and eliminate subsidies for alternative energy.

 

Exactly. It's incredibly cruel to 'help' in the way it's currently done. That's why we should treat any advocate for this kind of 'help' with deep suspicion and disdain.

 

I suspect there's more to it than that. Not that that theory doesn't have merit, but that there may be additional motivations. No idea what they are ... perhaps some kind of social engineering. Or literal evil (the enjoyment of slow torture).

There is another possibility of course, but it's almost too shocking to consider. That is that those driving the enabling are actually so deeply stupid that they would qualify as intellectually impaired. To be incapable of factoring in consequences - and worse, not caring enough to even consider the idea of consequences, indicates intellectual and emotional retardation. And I'm not even joking when I say that.

 

Yes, there really is. But I'm not talking about the Joe Citizen who hands a homeless guy a couple of bucks or a tent, I'm talking about the organisers and lobbyists. Those who tell us the 'solution' is enabling (via free housing, free money, free food, etc etc etc). THESE are the people who clearly have some other agenda - since even a 12 year old knows enabling will not only not solve the problem, but that it will increase it. We need to demonise the hell out of them, actually.

 

Israel is a wealthy country and don't need our money. America first remember? (Fake catch phrase from the right).

 

You mean the reality of the 90% of humanity still operating this way?

Or the unreality of the 10% - ivory tower dwelling First Worlder who imagine themselves so safe that they can risk it all by cutting ties?

 

So your solution is to let them stay in the streets, poop all over and sit there in your home and complain? Offer some realistic solutions then.

 

Compassion and clear goals and expectations are important.

I recently took the opportunity to volunteer at a needle exchange..
In this program people bring in dirty needles and are given clean ones a snack and water
and a couple of cloting items and toiletries.

No on the surface my first thoughts were this is just enabling. After talking with the director the goal of the program are simply to keep people from dying and to reduce the public health risks of hiv and hepatitis.

Side benefits also include streets that were once riddled with dangerous used needles are now needle free.

For my part i oversaw the clothes. A number of the ladies asked if this would be good for a job interview. So in my view giving them a little bit of hope, keeping them alive and free of serious illness is probably an overall benefit to the community.

They also provide fentanyl test strips to help them avoid drugs laced with the crap.
They also give out a divise that administers a dose of an anti opoid that can be administered to undo an overdose and keep someone from dying. It has a name but i don't recall it.

At any rate contrary to my initial reaction i think it's a good program.

 

Ehh i can take that.. every phrase from Democrats is either fake, or a flat out lie.

They talk about public saftey but really thry just hate gun owners.

They talk about the environment but really they just hate logging and mining

They talk about wealth inequality but really they just hate successful people.

They talk about fair elections but they just hate shareing power with Republicans.

They talk a lot about dreamers and caged children but they just hate republicans so much they want new democratic voters to come in droves.

There is nothing good about Democrats.

 

There is only one solution. It's the same one that has always worked, in nature and humanity - and still works in the vast majority of human societies. It's very simple. You don't pull your weight and behave yourself, you don't eat.

We may have opposable thumbs and larger brain pans, but when it comes to social value the wolf pack is vastly superior.

 

PS: I'm not 'letting' anyone do that. I'm not contributing to the problem with discarded family members, nor creating new humans who will indulge the behaviours that lead to homelessness. The people to blame are the families (of the homeless ... both for creating them in the first place, and then discarding them), and those who keep 'helping' the homeless.

 

Anything which makes it easier to keep doing what they're doing, is NOT a good program. It's the opposite, sadly.

 

No matter your position on homelessness...the issue remains extremely complex. For you to deny this shows you have little to no factual knowledge about the issue. Your opinion how others should behave is meaningless in any constructive conversation...

 

I disagree. In the absence of this program
People would simply use dirty needles spreading disease and death. It also eliminates a public saftey hazard gives people hope and the opportunity for assistance getting off drugs.

 

no one wants food stamps ect spent on drugs

but a bigger concern is the bailouts for the rich and the banks, that is actually happening

 

Damn, Honest REALITY! Good thing you're a moderator, accuracy like this from us common folk don't set well with the unrealistic crowd! ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

Well I suspect the WALL and tighter boarders and migration laws might be one way the right "VOICE CARE" about MS13 and any violent group entering the U.S. illegally! It's pretty hard to control these types when the Leftist are advocates for open boarders, sanctuary states and cities..

We cant fight them "MS13" and their internal supporting "Leftist" gangs offering safe harbors and protection ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

You are very much mistaken. Addicts will not change their behaviour until they're starving. Even then, some won't.

It's a tragedy that Westerners have so little understanding of human nature. What happened to us? How did we become this cruel and stupid?

 

It isn't complex at all. It's humans failing humans - via laziness and selfishness, and the vanity of thinking we can all survive as islands.

Take away all of that enabling certainty, and you'll see a very different human society in no time at all. None of us will have the luxury to indulge addictions and bad behaviours.

 

I am not going to give into my human nature just because they have.. a little compassion for the undeserving is not a bad thing.

 

Compassion is NOT enabling. Enabling is the worst kind of cheap and easy bandaid response. Handing an addict the means to perpetuate his problems is indulging the very worst of our nature.

Genuine compassion is manifest in preparedness to do what it takes to prevent homelessness.

 

That story sounds made up. I've heard various stories like this, always as third hand as this one, but I've never been hassled anything like that. I give food to homeless people regularly. I work biking around the city and sometimes buy a bunch of hamburgers to give away to homeless people while I'm doing it.

Over the years I've given away probably hundreds of hamburgers to dozens and dozens of homelesss people.
(Although I also almost never give cash)

1. I have never had the offer of food turned down. Not even once.
2. No one has ever been anything but kind and grateful.

P.S. if you really want to make a homeless guy happy, bring him a pack of new underwear. That's like, what homeless people generally want the most.