Keep abortion legal. Let mothers choose the slain.

There is a time to kill. No one knows better who should be killed than their very own mothers.
We need to keep abortion legal and let mothers choose the slain because moms know.

There is a time to kill, and abortion kills the right people. If not for Roe V. Wade, there would now be among us, just here in the US, another thirty three million people all raised by mothers who would have just as soon killed them had it been legal. Like I said, Abortion kills the right people.

 

So does war, the pigs and God.

 

Medical science has progressed quite a bit since Roe V. Wade. We no longer need to choose between a woman's right to choose and the sanctity of human life. Abort the pregnancy, but don't kill the baby. Neonatal care is amazing but expensive.

As a man, if I impregnate a woman and she gives birth to a premature baby, I would be on the hook for half of the neonatal care and child support. Mothers should be equally responsible. For decades we've been told that mothers don't want to kill the babies to get out of the financial responsibilities; well, put your money where your mouth is. We no longer have to choose between a mother's right to an abortion and a baby's right to life.

 

This would've made a way better thread title.

 

That's a huge thread jack.

 

Totally agree

 

"Medical science" has NOT made pregnancy progress any faster. It still takes 9 months , fetuses do NOT grow faster now than they did before.

Women should always have the same rights everyone else has including the right to bodily autonomy.

"We" , whoever THAT is, do NOT get to choose who has rights and who doesn't based on whether they are pregnant or not.

 

No fetus has EVER survived under 21 weeks of age, even with best medical care available.
Very few abortions are performed beyond that stage of development and most of those are for medical reasons.

You know nothing, Jon Snow. These are decisions made by the mother and her doctor, not random strangers on the internet who will never, ever face the possibility or uncertainties of pregnancy.

 

Of course, my point is moot before neonatal care can sustain the babies, but 21 weeks is pretty darn good; and if this became the standard, that window would begin to close even more rapidly than it is now. If it's not about the money, for the moms, and it's just about their rights over their bodies, why kill the babies? The dads can't do that because they can't afford it. The fact is that moms are not just killing their babies in an exercise over their bodies; they're also doing it to get rid of the financial liabilities.

 

There are no "babies" killed in abortion.

And what do you mean by "it's JUST about their rights over their bodies" ?

THAT IS what it's all about. It's not a "just", it's a basic human right, bodily autonomy.

THEY, the pregnant one, decides what to do with HER body.

The dads can't do what? Have a baby? No, they can't.

The FACT is they can have an abortion for any reason they choose......it is their RIGHT.


"Medical science" has NOT made pregnancy progress any faster. It still takes 9 months , fetuses do NOT grow faster now than they did before.

Women should always have the same rights everyone else has including the right to bodily autonomy.

"We" , whoever THAT is, do NOT get to choose who has rights and who doesn't based on whether they are pregnant or not.

 

By all means, I want the moms to abort any pregnancy that they don't want; however, don't kill the baby if it's not necessary. After viability, we do not have to choose between a mother's right to abort a pregnancy and the baby's right to life.

Take the money out of it for the moms just like money is not a factor for the dads. Moms should not be allowed to kill a baby for financial reasons any more than fathers. By all means, abort the pregnancy, just don't kill the baby.

The whole argument has been that the death of the baby is an unavoidable consequence of a mother aborting a pregnancy. That's just not true in millions and millions of cases. In millions and millions of cases, there is no need to choose between a mother's right to choose to abort a pregnancy and the baby's right to life.

 

<Mod Edit> The only way to extract a 24 month old fetus is by C section, a medical operation that requires anesthesia and surgery. All surgery under anesthesia puts the mother at risk and C sections are very stressful on the child. At 24 to 28 weeks, the chances of survival are under 20%.

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Once again, there is no "baby" involved in an abortion, and denying science just won't change it.

Are you willing to donate the $300,000 to raise and care for every UNaborted fetus ?

I bet not.


Are you not aware that pregnancy affects women physically not just monetarily?

ARE YOU going to pay her for permanent and temporary pain and suffering to her body?

For her risking her life? YES, EVERY pregnancy carries the RISK of serious illness and death.

Denying it doesn't change it.

I see you choose to ignore women's basic human rights.


Where TF do you get the idea that all women owe YOU a child ????

 

we will never let the anti-choicers force rape victims to have their rapists babies

only the mother can choose to bring a child into this world or not

 

"So you think", once again precedes a misrepresentation. I made quite clear in my OP what I think the law should be and why. I have some very good intentions for other people, and so do you, but none of them are so good that they should be imposed upon others by force, not even by force of law.

 

Let mothers choose the slain; after all, moms know.

 

When did Bricklayer get so sacrosanct he thought he is a woman?