Mnuchin seeks to delay Democratic efforts to release Trump’s secret service spending

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    No, the American Tax payer paid for Obama's personal, private entertainment such as Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Prince, Meryl Streep and many, MANY more.

    Michelle Obama - "Let them eat cake!"
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's so nice to see the Democrats so concerned about wasteful spending.

    It's be nicer if they would look through a telescope at education, pension, and healthcare waste instead of through a microscope at secret service waste, but what can you do?
     
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    Let's try it again, Obama did not personally profit, put money in his pockets, turn a buck, for any of Obama's entertainment expenses, Trump does personally profit for himself everytime he stays at one of his resorts, now if you can't understand the difference you will never understand the difference
     
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    We aren't talking waste here, we are talking profiteering, turning a buck off of the American taxpayer, Trump is literally using his position as President to make money, a lot of money, and the right thinks it is all perfectly copacetic.

    Can you imagine the screaming, innuendos, and conspiracies that would have arised from talk radio, Fox, and Fox's prime time demogogues if Obama had personally profited off of being President?

    The hypocrisy on the right is epic
     
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    Obama did personally profit off of being President and he still profits to this very day. But THAT doesn't seem to bother you in the least. So, it's a little ironic to hear you throwing the word "hypocrite" around.

    If Trump's only aim was to make as much money as possible, he would have stayed in the private sector and ignored government service altogether. He would be making far more money just running his companies. President Trump is not breaking any laws, he is just travelling around to his different locations which he is free to do. Secret Service in tow, for the rest of his life.
     
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    Oh the drama. It's so dramatic.

    Step one: become a billionaire
    Step two: become president of the United States.
    Step three: Rent golf carts to the secret service.
    Step three point five: grow mustache.
    Step four: twirl mustache.

    There you have it. If Trump grows a mustache he must be repeached.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wonder how much money I could make off Democrat taxpayers by developing a game called simpeachment. They'll be able to explore all their imagined high crimes from the safety of their own basements.
     
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    Beautiful, what Obama makes today isn't being funded by the American taxpayer, we aren't paying for it, what Trump profits off today while he is President is being paid by the American taxpayer, you are ignoring the facts if you can't see the difference

    Prove it, show us how Trump would be making more money today if he hadn't become President. That a Trumpism, you believe it is true cause Trump said it, and we all know how honest Trump is

    And the "not breaking any laws" is again beautiful, you see it again and again attempting to rationalize Trump, ah, Martin Shkreli didn't break any laws either when he quadrupled the cost of cancer drugs overnight

    As I said, hypocrisy
     
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    None, seemingly you can't even put together a contributing content post so how in the hell are you going to develop anything
     
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  11. opion8d

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    The Right's creativity in designing and deploying deflection has reached new heights. But, but, but Obama. But, but, but all presidents have security details. Please. How dumb does the Right think taxpayers are.

    Yes all presidents have security details, but they don't usually book Air Force One to fly them to an exotic golf mecca with Trump's name on it. While there, they all book rooms and pay for meals, golf carts, and other accoutrements that go into True cash registers - KA-JING! HIs idea to have the next G-7 meeting at his bug ridden, loss leading Florida resort was a real inspiration. Seven national leaders with a hundred staff and security in tow would add up to a very tidy profit for Trump. I don't think he mentioned he would be paying those profits to the taxpayers.

    Then there are the local properties in DC and elsewhere where folks are laying out big dough to curry Trump's favor. He's even got the military detouring to his Scotland property which is costing the Air Force a ton of dough each time they land and stay at Trump's property. Then there is his hotel in Turkey, but let's not get nasty. On the other hand, there is his BIG push to get Moscow's Trump Towers.

    Watchdog groups, equipped with freedom of information data in their pockets figure Trump has spent 33% of his time screwing off. He's made the presidency into a rich profit center for his company. The ROI on his $400K salary must be staggering. He raise holy hell over Obama's golf outings and Promised, PROMISED repeatedly that he, the Donald, would be far too busy as president to play golf. If that isn't a gut buster what is?

    Can we all say emoluments?
     
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    A good way to tell if your world view is accurate is to see if it predicts future events. I predict that Democrats in leadership will keep attempting to throw mud at the man in the Teflon suit. Their attempts will continue to result in zero mud anywhere near Trump. Instead it'll be found in their pants, on their faces, and all over everything they touch.

    Trump will easily win a second term after Democrats make exactly the same mistakes they made during the last election.

    But what can you expect from a party that thinks that the majority of voters are idiots.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would be nice if Democrat imaginations extended beyond accusations of activity that they are guilty of themselves.

    Russia collusion? Check.
    Quid pro quo? Check.
    Directly profiting from office? Check.
    Nepotism? Check.
    Sexual misconduct? Triple check.
     
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    I believe your crystal ball has developed an astigmatism. During the "last election" would that be 2018? In case you missed it, the Dems took a new leaf out of their old book, love the working middle class and focus on middle class issues. What were those? Why enumerate them here?

    My crystal ball said Trump would be impeached a couple years ago. It was as inevitable as sunrise. Will he win a second term? After being impeached and exposed for what he is?
     
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    Did you predict that the impeachment would make him even more popular?
     
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    I think the members get screwed. It's private.
     
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    I wonder how secret service detail works for inmates?
     
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    Yes, it is. You are paying Obama to get richer and richer by the day and you are paying for all of his perks. You pay for that if you are a taxpayer in the United States of America. You pay for all current and former Presidents.

    https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/98-249.pdf

    Sorry to burst your bubble with facts. :)
     
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    The president* has virtually the same approval rating today that he did on his inauguration.
    His disapproval however is up over eight points from the same period.
     
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    That's what will happen if the POTUS is a billionaire, money spent is nothing for them.
     
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    Since Carter entertainment has been paid by the President.
    However; they are usually carried by PBS in which case Pepsi pays for it.
     
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    I don't know where you are getting your data. My 538 composite shows Trump's approval has held steady at 40-41 percent for months or no change. That's not a real good place. Trump supporters have stayed with their guy. No surprise.

    Trump is a 40% president and you aren't going to win any elections with that. My crystal ball sees nothing that will move Trump up in polling. So long as he keeps pandering to his base at the expense of a broader population I see more downside potential than up.
     
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    Polls are funny critters. You could survey rural Texas and 5hrn survey central Denver and get polar opposite results. I lead back to the 2016 election where Trump was polled to lose in a drastic fashion which showed to vastly wrong.
     
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    Yes, except the polls measured popular vote which Clinton won. Also, the Comey "revelation" of new emails from Anthony Wiener put the Clinton campaign in a tailspin a few days before the election. That cost Clinton a lot of votes. Would she have won? Not without the Electoral votes Trump picked up in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan. Hillary ran an elitist campaign and it cost her the election.
     
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    Rotflmao !!!
     

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