FINALLY: Missouri Lawmaker Files Bill to Prevent ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Child Grooming Events

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    A blow against the powerful forces within the LGBT community to curb convicted pedophiles from getting near children as 2 did in Houston. This law doesn't go near far enough to protect children but its a step in the right direction giving parents notice before exposing their children. If this had been done in houston the parents could have investigated the criminals as the school obviously did not and prevented these child sex offenders from getting anywhere near children. The real question is who is going to oppose this without their real agenda being exposed? Will this finally get other states to also speak out against this unbelievable risk to children?

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    A state lawmaker is finally taking aim at drag queen story hour events that allow creeps and weirdos to groom children in public libraries and other formerly wholesome venues.

    Rep. Ben Baker, a legislator from southwestern Missouri, has introduced the “Parental Oversight of Public Libraries Act” to provide criminal sanctions against librarians who permit children to be exposed to drag queen story hour events without parental consent.

    “In some places — St. Louis, Kansas City and I think St. (Joseph) — they’ve had these drag queen story hours and that’s something that I take objection to and I think a lot of parents do,” Baker said. “That’s where in a public space, our kids could be exposed to something that’s age-inappropriate. That’s what I’m trying to tackle.”

    The legislation would allow parents to have “recourse” to express that they are “not OK” with drag queen story hour events coming to their community, according to Baker. Libraries would be compelled to create a five-person oversight board to determine whether certain “material,” like pro-tranny books read by cross-dressers at story hour events, is appropriate for kids.

    Library personnel who refused to comply with these rules would be charged with a class B misdemeanor, facing a fine of $500 and up to a year in jail. The bill author is clear that he does not want to ban any type of literature, only protect children from LGBT indoctrination from events like drag queen story hour.



    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/final...-drag-queen-story-hour-child-grooming-events/
     
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    This is common sense, and I imagine most parents agree, whether they'd publicly admit it or not.
     
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    According to libs, if a white person wears oriental garb that’s demeaning and racist.

    If a white person wears a sombrero or sells tacos, that’s cultural appropriation and racist.

    But if a man parades around as a woman, the left is dead silent and feminists are missing in action.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That wouldn't gain them any votes so they don't bother with it.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So first the right wants to arm elementary school teachers and now they want to criminally charge librarians over book readings...
     
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    A band-aid.

    The root of the problem is in the parents that think this is what their kids need.
     
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    No surprise who is against this. Why do you find it acceptable for convicted pedophiles to read to children about their sexual fantasies?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And I am not surprised you are still pushing the same obsessive narrative.

    So many recurring strawman fallacies to unpack I am not even going to try.

    Drag queens are not pedophiles
    Trans people are not pedophiles
    Bisexual people are not pedophiles
    Homosexuals are not pedophiles

    I wish such legislation was being introduced by the pedophile priests that were not only actually harming boys and girls but were being hidden and covered up by the church so they could continue to do so.

    There have been zero cases of one of these readers physically harming one of their listeners. This is nothing but a feel good bill for the bigots to cheer.

    Why not just mandate legislation that requires background checks instead of simply targeting a demographic?

    Oh I know why! Because it had nothing to do with the children, it’s just about bigotry.
     
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    Just remember folks, it’s not censorship if it’s about protecting the children.

    Let the library have their story times in peace. It’s a nice way to expose kids to lgbt culture so they have the vocabulary when they deal with it at an older age. Nothing weird about it.
     
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    Why did you leave out the context of the readings?

    Show me where anyone wants librarians criminally charge for JUST reading books or withdraw the claim.
     
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    If children are not required to attend these readings, what is the problem? You are trying to legislate who parents can allow their kids to voluntarily associate with. Its like saying a parent can be forced from allowing their kids to listen to Mormon priest because Baptist would be offended.
     
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    I didn’t read the bill, just the OP’s article that somewhat misrepresents it (shouldn’t be surprised) however the bill states:

    182.821.2 (1) "Age-inappropriate sexual material", any description or representation, in any form, of nudity, sexuality, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sadomasochistic abuse, that:
    182.821.2(1)(a) Taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest of minors;
    182.821.2(1)(b) Is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community with respect to what is appropriate material for minors; and
    182.821.2(1)(c) Taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors;


    Many areas of the country believe just mentioning the world “homosexual” or “gay” should be illegal...
    So if a board of five members of the general public elect to ban a specific theme any librarian not enforcing their views should be charged with a misdemeanor and one year in jail. Each library will have a different five member board.
    Also, minor is mentioned which means everyone up and including 17 year old’s would be attached to the board’s rules.
    It could even be stretched to disallow stories with an interracial couple to be banned and there are numerous other ways this will backfire, but lets not pretend we don’t know why this was introduced — we all have more integrity than that, right?

    That just seems... absurd...
    It doesn’t even address pedophiles in the slightest as @guavaball misrepresented.

    This must be a huge problem for them to push for such language, have an example of one of the books they believe fits the criteria?
     
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    Let me add my two cents to this:

    The people who compare pedophiles to priests never seem to mention Muslims or our human smuggling burrito bandits south of the border. Is anyone curious as to why?

    The people who think drag queens being around kids is OK because it exposes them to their culture would go ape if the NRA wanted to come into schools and expose the kids to their second amendment rights.

    The people who love to ban things (when they aren't able to tax them) have a problem banning drag queens in libraries but have no problem, they may have even celebrated, the banning of books like Huckleberry Finn and the movie Gone With The Wind.

    The people who are upset about bills being passed in an effort to stop unwanted behaviors are the same people who shut down events they don't like, often violently. Let's say a gay immigrant wanted to speak at Berkeley and the left didn't want him to, what they just might do is put on their masks, riot and commit arson. Wait...that actually happened.

    Do you guys see the difference in how the left and right settle things? One side passes a bill, the other side protests, riots, loots and burns buildings to the ground.
     
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    No people reading books to children in that setting is I fine just don't understand why you need to dress up like a drag queen to do it. It's a bit bizarre. Drag is an adult thing.

    I don't mind if people dress up even if they dress up in drag if it's relevant to what they're doing.
     
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    yes it is our sensors regarding children are very particular they're not allowed to star in pornography you're not allowed to show them pornography you're not allowed to provide them with alcohol, and numerous other things children aren't allowed to do.
    I didn't do anything this will drive a wedge between children and LGBT culture. There shouldn't be an LGBT culture. We should just be part of the larger culture.
     
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    That will never happen. The left complains about segregation yet they self-segregate all the time and you can see this in their special-people only dorms, graduations, award shows, Miss America contests, safe spaces, etc. What always kills me is how they put each of their special people into their own communities. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people mention the black community, the gay community, the Latino community. etc. Of course, just suggesting there should be a straight white American community will get you all sorts of clobbered by the left.
     
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    Its painfully obvious you didn't read the subject. The entire reasoning for the law is that parents were not being notified and the schools were not doing proper background checks on these freaks.
     
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    Its always amusing what you selectively leave out.

    and 10 (c) Taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for 11 minors;

    Now why would you leave that out? Could it be because you cannot justify these freaks as having any serious literary artistic political or scientific value for minors?

    Ah still making stuff like this up with no evidence I see.

    Actually it does by notifying parents the parents would have the opportunity to check out the freaks who want to dress in drag and get near children which would have prevented the pedophiles from getting near children in Houston.

    Are you saying you don't consider pedophies in drag being near children and in some cases even touching them to be a problem?
     
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    It’s a show, and drag queens are performers... I agree some of them need less revealing clothing though — I have no problem with a green haired Mrs Doubtfire.
     
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    Why doesn’t the bill contain a provision for background checks then? Or a notice to parents?
    If that’s the reason as you claim...
     
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    Drag isn't pornography simply by definition. Drag is wearing the clothes of a different gender for a performance. It doesn't have to have any sexual connotation to be drag.

    How do you make a minority culture part of the larger culture?
     
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    It’s literally the last line you quoted from me...
    No wonder you have trouble with bills that are a couple of pages — you cannot even follow a few paragraphs...

    Does Barney have scientific value? Or the teletubbies?

    There is a bill introduced in AZ to make it illegal to even speak of homosexuality in schools. Just because you are ignorant to the issues — besides non-religious pedophilia against boys as you seem to be an expert there — doesn't mean anyone is making anything up.

    Except the bill doesn’t do that.
    I am all for parents having choice — but this is blanket bans.

    Now you have just jumped to outright lying — I understand, the constant mental gymnastics and agenda must be tiring after a while.

    I fully support having intensive background checks on anyone that works around children — including priests.
     
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    no need to single them out, just make a law that no sexual explicit demonstrations of ANY gender can be displayed to children in schools and churches, be they heterosexual, homosexual or bi-sexual

    I no more support drag queen story hour then I woudl a heterosexual S&M story hour

    of course he does not want to ban literature, the bible has daughters having sex with their father in it and other sexual stuff
     
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    Wow you really didn't read it did you. The notice is the restriction on sexual subjects around children. The background checks are the new rules

    nudity, sexuality, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or sadomasochistic abuse, 6 that: 7 (a) Taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest of minors; 8 (b) Is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community with 9 respect to what is appropriate material for minors; and 10 (c) Taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for 11 minors;
     
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    The difference is there aren't any heterosexual S&M story hours particularly none with the backing of a political organization like the LGBT.
     
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