FINALLY: Missouri Lawmaker Files Bill to Prevent ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Child Grooming Events

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  1. yguy

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    That they're allowed to attend these "readings". You're welcome.
    Which isn't a problem when said association happens in a venue that's subject to state jurisdiction.
     
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    that's certainly what some people tell themselves
     
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    and allowing your kids to go is abuse..
     
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    Some states already have failure to report a crime being a crime regardless of religion. Texas being one for example. You should do more research.

    Because laws are almost always made in reaction to something being done. Why did gay marriage limit itself to gays and not polygamy as well?

    And the law doesn't even specify crossdressing freaks in language so what is your complaint? That its going to be harder for convicted paedophiles to get close to children without the parents knowledge?
     
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    I think churches are exempt, but if some states have change the laws, good on them

    because same gender marriage was about equality, no one currently can marry more than one person, same gender couple were not asking for extra rights, just equal rights
     
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    If people can't marry more than one person it was never about equality was it. Or just equality for homosexuals who only want to marry one person.

    And there is no text anywhere in the Constitution that says marriage is a right.

    Anyone can partner with anyone they like, even get married. This was about state and federal recognition of that marriage.

    That's why the argument has always been a lie. Anyone can get married for any reason whenever they want.
     
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    that is equality, everyone treated the same under the law, discriminating based on race or gender is not equality

    marriage is a legal thing, it can also be a religious thing, but that holds no legal value, religion is not required to be married

    the reason religious people make their marriage legal is for federal recognition of that marriage.

    heterosexuals can only marry one person, homosexuals wanted the same right, nothing extra

    now if heterosexuals demand the right to marry more than one person and it's allowed, same gender people should have the same right
     
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    I agree with you this kind of crap makes gay people look bad. It makes us look like we are trying to groom children. And perhaps expose them to things they probably ought not be exposed to yet.

    I don't doubt for a minute that a certain segment of it is trying to do just that. As well as sadomasochist and various other things young people will get the chance to learn about eventually.

    I don't understand the rush. I don't know that it would have been better for me turf come to terms with my sexuality when I was younger. I dealt with it at the proper time. If there are kids dealing with that they need to set their own clock.

    I'm very much a proponent of let them figure it out for themselves.
     
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    Most drag queens in this culture are homosexual. Don't confuse drag queen with crossdresser. A drag queen is someone who is a performer. A crossdresser is just a man who wears women's clothes.
     
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    I don't think drag queens are dysphoric they are typically gay men. Not trans.

    I think what this is is people trying to show how progressive they are how far were they are at thinking how not bigoted than they are. I know some people call this virtue signaling but I don't think that term's accurate. What I think it is is them trying to signal that they're not like the people who opposed the Civil Rights act.

    they want to be accepting of gays and lesbians and transgender people which is a good thing it comes from a good place. It's just they need to distinguish between gay people and gay culture.
     
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    you make a good point here I think people have a tendency to lump it all in together. There may have been a time where that was the case but it's not that way anymore.
     
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    I would think what you're doing is very different it is a more intimate thing and your nephew does need to know about it if you're in his life. Especially if it's his parents want you in his life. to me that's fundamentally different than let's go have this stranger read to our kids dressed up like they would an adult themed cosplay show. I think what you're doing is very different.
     
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    Hunting Story Hour, where hunters from the community come in dressed in camouflage and tell stories of getting into the outdoors and enjoying nature with their family, seeking food for the table, respecting the animals they kill for meat as opposed to getting it from the store.

    Wonder how that would go over? (I don't wonder). Imagine the Richter 10 upheaval in the MSM for weeks or months.

    Not one F bit different.

    There are certain things that don't belong in elementary schools, and parents have a right to object.
     
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    I don't think there's anything wrong with positively perceiving people that you think have abnormal lifestyles. just like there's nothing wrong with teaching people to positively perceive Hasidic Jews which is definitely an abnormal lifestyle. Or Amish people who are very small abnormal lifestyle and percent of the population.

    I can't buy them what's wrong with that. It doesn't hurt the kid.



    Again, another comparison that's just nonsensical.
    I think that's the percent of people who are Jewish in the country, and I think he said it could use our smaller population. That is a chosen lifestyle. Should we not teach people to positively perceive them if not why not?
     
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    I actually think what you proposed is different. Hunting is not sexual Everybody eats. And I think shielding kids from the knowledge of where our food comes from makes them food idiots. There are parents who take their kids hunting this isn't or shouldn't be looked down upon unless we're talking about someone who opposes eating meat altogether.

    Not only do I support this idea I've talked to kids about hunting in a curated class. Safety do's and don'ts sportsmanship laws. I think it's a wholesome activity it may not be appropriate for small children but older children that's fine.

    I don't think hunting is a strictly adult activity like drag.
     
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    well people allow their kids to do a lot worse. I think we need to deal with other things first. The argument Daniel light presents is a good one.

    Nobody is being forced in the spirit of liberty I don't know if we have any say in telling them they can't. I think it's inappropriate I think drag is sexually charged and adult. But I'm not those kids parent
     
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    Understood. I purposefully chose a somewhat less controversial example, the point being the shitstorm it would cause in the Leftosphere. But even as a lifelong hunter, I don't think Hunting Story Hour would be appropriate for elementary school aged kids, fine for Jr. High and up.
     
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    Not like a graphic blow by blow no. Yes I do agree there would be fits thrown about such a thing if it were to get the kind of publicity drag queen story hour does.
     
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    You make a good point Daniel. It's not something that is being forced in people. I can think it's inappropriate but ultimately they aren't my kids.
     
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    Your comparison only works if you think that there's a probability that one's inclination to live as a Hasidic Jew or Amish is indicative of mental disorder.
     
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    They can do all that while leaving children out of it.
     
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    I do think being Amish is an inclination to a mental disorder the Amish are a cult. But you can't say that being lesbian or gay or bisexual is indicative of a mental disorder. You can point out there's a higher proclivity for mental disorder among LGBT people and that's true but it is intellectually dishonest to say that it's caused by being LGBT.
     
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    I agree it's inappropriate.
     
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    I suppose the issue is that the library is public, and the people choosing to see them are choosing for themselves, but like everyone else, I think we need to keep the sex stuff out of the library, regardless if heterosexual or homosexual

    I would no more want them doing s&m clothing reading hours either
     
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    This is a debate forum I will reply in kind thank you very much.
     

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