MUST SEE LIST of Trump’s Historical and Miraculous Accomplishments Three Years Into His Presidency..

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Who was the alt.right hack who said "It's the economy stupid!"? ;-)

    "The big picture: Trump wins all three modelers. Economists predict that the tailwind is large.
    Ray Fair, a professor at Yale, "found that the growth rates of gross domestic product and inflation have been the two most important economic predictors — but he also found that incumbency was also an important determinant of presidential election outcomes."
    "Mark Zandi, the chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, has looked at 12 models, and Mr. Trump wins in all of them."
    "Donald Luskin of Trend Macrolytics has reached the same conclusion in his examination of the Electoral College."
    AXIOS, 3 forecast modelers predict Trump will win in 2020, May 27, 2019.
    https://www.axios.com/trump-2020-pr...els-b9a95aca-7f25-4c6a-af91-720b7828afa5.html
     
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  2. FatBack

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    And her retirement benefits. I never said they were bad but surely you dont think a record number on food stamps is good? My "job" as it were, is caring for her.
     
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    Maybe you will take a shot at it since it seems to bother you so much.
    If Obama printed money like crazy, what do you believe trump is doing having spent more during three years than Obama did in his last term.
    Why was 2% growth unacceptable during Obama but an achievement under trump?
     
  5. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    What graph might that be and what is your contention about it?
     
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    Maybe because he has more negatives — especially in his personality — than previous presidents?
    Na, couldn’t be that! trump is a great guy and has never mocked handicap people, bragged about grabbing women by the *****, ignored presidential norms and ethics, advocated violence against people that do not support him in lock step.
     
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    No.

    You're right. It couldn't. Hell, even when Trump visits the troops on a holiday, he is criticized. Quite frankly, every single thing he does is met with resistance, opposition, and criticism. Everything.

    Hell, half the **** is before anything is actually known. See the latest issue with Trump's desire to re-write the anti-corruption laws for foreign business. They don't even know what he is going to revise, and already people are criticizing.

    Nobody, and I mean no political entity, has ever endured the blatant deluge of partisan bad press that this president has.

    All bullshit.

    The same kind of critical non-sense could be said of ANY politician. Give me one, and Ill find videos and statements that are similarly offensive.

    The fact is... the left is an emotional political group that simply can't stand people not sugar coating and beating around the bush. It IS the snowflake generation that feels that their emotions matter, and look down on people that don't protect their sensitive feelings. For once, we have a politician that doesn't speak out of both sides of their mouth trying to protect their re-election effort, pandering to entire different groups, being sensitive about every fricken word they utter.

    **** snowflakes.
     
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    Trump has far exceeding anyone's expectations.

    Having said the above, i have to say, the comparisons between first few years of Trump vs Obama on economy are intellectually shallow. Obama inherited a disaster, i don't think Trump could've fixed that in first 1-2 years, there is no way.. the economic collapse was an avalanche as a result of many years (decades) of bad policy, regulations and reckless private sector lender/borrower behavior. I do believe, however, that Trump's policies have unleashed growth that Obama wouldn't have unleashed and it's simply due to presiding over a government that supports and encourages the private sector, something Obama didn't quite get right.

    but, everything else is on point. It's a long list of accomplishments
     
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    Thanks for that rant... to call everyone snowflakes much of the right are very snowflakish...

    As for the lie that they have all been just as bad, we will start with a single in context quote

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    Also feel free to list where prior presidents stole from their charities, had numerous organizations closed for fraud and had representatives from news organizations openly campaigning for them.
     
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    Sorry, but about 95% of the millennial generation need to reach down into their pants and find their testicles. Really. I'm ****ing tired of these ****s and I am a gen X.
     
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    Lol, ok.
    Cheers
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Good Lord, Gateway Pundit??? Are you serious? That is your source for the truth? Unbelievable?

    I am sure you meant this as a joke, Ha! Ha!
     
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    Imagine ...

    But all this can be prevented by the American people.
     
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    Actually Dow Jones is in control. If a company falters, it is replaced by a rising company. Thus the Dow consistently rises faster than the economy, faster than stocks in general.
     
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    Yet the Pacific Northwest led the country, economically, during Obama's presidency. Quick, which state do the two wealthiest men come from? What industry did they get their money from? Why wasn't it fracking?
     
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    Any graph of any economic metric from 2010 to present. UE, wages, LFPR, stock market, GDP, job growth. They all show the trend line has remain unchanged in that time.
     
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    Seeing as the same basic trends have continued across both presidents, it seems silly to me to credit either of them.
     
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    Why do you guys always want to talk about quotes and never the actual numbers? DUMB
     
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    OK I'll mark you down as another one who knows more than the economist.
     
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    When he makes things good for corporations, the DOW goes up.
     
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    Economists agree with me. Because they can read a graph.

    So back to my original question. Do you dispute the data, or are you unfamiliar with what the data shows, or can you not read a graph?
     
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    Dishonest to think Trump is not responsible for one of the hottest economies on the planet. This is what he was handed from the previous President.



    Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
    www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
    Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
    How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
    Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
    Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…



    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.

    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
     

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