Everyone out to Richmond on Monday!

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so we agree, and yes, our public services ran today too, as well as our local paper was delivered, some people have to work on federal holidays
     
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    Indirectly they probably got the idea from John Locke's treatises on government. He articulated the concept of natural law and natural rights as anyone should know who has a college education.
     
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    Is that good ole Hank (I'm scared Guam will capsize and tip over into the ocean) Johnson in there weighing in with his 'expert' opinion *cough* on neo nazis?
     
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    Reckon my education here was not lacking and none of that crap was presented to me, and I guess I am less of a looney because of that.
     
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    Ignorance of something is a personal problem
     
  6. StillBlue

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    What if they throw a war and no body showed up? Now you know. Only one side showed up.
     
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  7. StillBlue

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    Not at all. If I asked you to code for me a program in R to track the evolution of ebola you'd look at me with a blank expression because chances are, unless you're a geek that works statistics, you've never even heard of R making you ignorant of it.
    Now willful ignorance is an entirely different matter. If I say to you that Trump told another whopper today and you respond not possible because he's the most honest president ever, then that would be a case of willful ignorance and that is a problem.
     
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    Were you with friends? Just chillin'?
     
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    Willful ignorance is inserting yourself (ie not being invited) to defame and denigrate the politics of another country when you are not well versed in such and are just flying on the seat of irrational hate.

    So he was correct.

    PS: May I ask are you an Aussie too?
     
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    Speaking of willful ignorance. My passport says United States of America on the cover. Now do us all a favor and look up willful ignorance because you just horribly mashed the use of it.
     
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    It was just a question so keep your pants on. No ignorance at all. Were you born in the US?
     
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    In America its just top dems who throw wars.

    Thats how they do.
     
  13. StillBlue

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    That wasn't what I was referring to.
    That's the misuse of the term willful ignorance.
     
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    One girl was arrested(and quickly released) hours after the rally for covering her face with a bandana.

    And that was pretty much the extent of the "confrontations".

    So, who dropped the ball here?
     
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    The governor made a statement, giving all the credit for the peaceful character to law enforcement, and he mentioned a figure of 60 000. There is always a dispute about numbers in political rallies, of course. I wonder if there is any consensus?
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course. It's for maintaining the security of a free state. The Left interpret this to mean, having a strong professional military, and thus doing whatever is necessary to provide a reserve pool of manpower, sorry, peoplepower, oops that's not right either .... anyway, that's their interpretation.

    Ours is, that it's about having a strong reserve of armed civilians, in order to keep our state a free one, regardless of the source of the threat.

    But I've seen many pro-2A people argue that they need their AR15 for deer hunting. No one will be convinced by that. Given that, for the moment, you can buy a 50-round drum magazine for the thing, if you say, "It's just for deer hunting, honest" then they can say, "And you need fifty rounds to stop a deer? You're a menace to other hunters. How about we limit magazines to ten rounds, that's reasonable, for deer hunting." And they would be right.

    No, we want weapons that would give us at least a starting chance in any sort of breakdown of law and order.

    But ... people who are pro2A really ought to follow through with the logic of their beliefs, and join a militia. And, if possible, enlist in the National Guard, if they have not yet done military service.
     
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    I think the Left wisely stayed away. (As my side should do, for an equivalent situation.)
    There was significant concern on the pro-2A side, that there would be provocations, etc ... not just from AntiFa turning up and doing their usual thing, but from 'plants' within the crowd. But things evidently have not reached that point yet, which is good.
     
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    So if the lack of mayhem and violence at this right-wing rally can be attributed to the presence of an adequate amount of law enforcement, then to what can we attribute all of the violence and mayhem that does happen at left-wing rallys? Is the problem an inadequate presence of law enforcement?

    Do government official overestimate the violent nature of right-wing protestors, while the underestimate the violent nature of left-wing protestors?

    I'd say that's definitely the case, and it's because of the false narrative pushed by the mainstream media in particular, and the left in general.
     
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    It could be someone young that is just depressed but not violent. Again, the ACLU was against it.
     
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    Do you think sometime that was going to kill people there would care about a law that says not to?

    Someone was going to commit mass murder if only it was legal.
     
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    Aw darn. The left wing media were disappointed that there was no violence.

    I would bet there was no actionable intelligence that there was going to be violence.
     
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    Only if they legally possess it?
     
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    Amazing a plant doesn't want to show up and harass a bunch of good guys with guns, funny how that works and it's kind of the whole damn point.
     
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    Only if they legally possess it
    Shows your fear to be unfounded and sadly wishful thinking. You want conservatives to be Boogeymen. You hoped people were injured to prove it. How disgraceful.
     
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    People were frisked on the way in.
     

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