Sanders announces $1.5 trillion universal child care plan

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    If it's going to add value, then why does it require a trillion and a half dollars of government-seized wealth to pay for it?

    Or, once the value is added, can a portion of that value be refunded back to the people who had their wealth seized?
     
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    "Investment" :lol:

    What's another $1.9 trillion on top of the $125 trillion he already wants to spend?

    We'll just pluck all that money off the Magical Mystical "Progressive" Money Tree....
     
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    I'm not sure I follow the question. Are you asking if parents are usually OK at taking care of their own infant children?
     
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    True on the last point, he certainly didn’t expect so much left wing opposition to making America great again.

    but overall promises made, promises keep
     
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    This is part of a comprehensive approach to enacting real family values in the United States that includes providing all parents with six months of paid family leave, paid sick time, and paid vacation so they can spend time with their children.


    And he is going to provide this including paying off a Trillion dollar bubble in student loan debt by taking the "wealthy"?
     
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    125 Trillion? You just pulled that one from your ass, right?
     
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    Umm yes we seem to have gotten thousands of years into human history fine without the Government raising our kids...
     
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    The value added would be refunded back to the government through income taxes that parents who are now able to work will contribute.
     
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    We also survived for tens of thousands of years without mandating vaccines for children, but there is always room for improvement.
     
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    How much are you going to pitch in? If you can't afford your damn kids, don't have any in the first place. We should teach personal responsibility and the value of hard work, not sucking on the government teet.
     
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    You are comfortable with allowing women to get abortions if they can't afford kids, right?
     
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    We are able to benefit now due to the president’s doubling of the child care tax credit.

    This is simply a plan for the Govt to take over the day care business
     
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    His "promise kept" here is a proposal for a budget that is Dead on Arrival that would balance the budget roughly 10 years later than he initially promised and assumed economic growth targets that he failed to hit even once - after promising to do even better.
     
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    Crushing someone’s religious liberty isn’t an improvement.
     
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    Yes the dems will kill any plan that balances the budget, hence why we got to get them out of the house. Hardly his fault.
     
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    When that "religious liberty" threatens the health and safety of my child, you bet your sweet ****ing ass it is an improvement.
     
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    It's a damn shame that Trump was so ****ing bad at his job that he couldn't make such a plan while Republicans controlled the House and that he failed so hard as a leader that he had to resort to shutting down the government for the longest period of time over a ****ing wall instead of actually negotiating with the newly minted Democratic majority that his own ****-up helped to create.
     
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    Ah, I see. A world where parents are working hard to pay their 52% tax obligation to fund Bernie's socialist dystopia while their kids are raised by government-subsidised daycare workers AKA complete strangers.

    Because a parent's responsibility is to the collective first, and their children second.
     
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    Wrong.

    Green New Deal, $93 trillion + Medicare for All, $32 trillion = $125 trillion.

    But more importantly for Sanders and his "progressive" comrades, more power and control over everyone's lives.

    No thanks.
     
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    Vaccinate your kids.

    but when one is willing to give up liberty for safety...they deserve none.
     
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    He really only had one year to do that before rhe house flipped. He did get the tax cuts who charge were of first importance to get people back to work, and tax revenues coming in.
    It is ashame the left decided to shut the govt down because they didnt believe in border security, and just as sad they aren’t willing to balance the budget today
     
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    Ya damn right I am. Furthermore, that's one thing I am fine with spending tax dollars on because it's cheaper in the long run and they are likely future democrat voters.

    Probably not the answer you expected, is it?
     
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    Here's an idea that responsible, civilized human beings came up with a long time ago: BEFORE you have children, make sure you are capable of taking care of them yourself. Don't ask or force other people to fulfill your responsibilities for you.

    Adulthood. Personal responsibility. Learn it, live it, love it...
     
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    The science behind vaccines.. All the crap they add to said vaccine not so much... The impact on a battery of vaccines at the same time also draws questions.

    That has nothing to do however with Bernie "Free" Sanders.
     
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    We have full employment now. No need for it, trump’s plan is working
     
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