Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

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  1. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    It is part of the First Commandment = Exodus 34:11-16.
     
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    I agree.

    Hating an entire group of people simply because they happen to be of a particular race, religion, nationality and/or ethnic group is not only senseless and too much wasted effort but you miss out on so much that that group has to offer.
     
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    It is very seldom that any group loves every other group. Religious literature is full of examples where one group hates every other group.
     
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    No idea how you get the idea that that's hatred but okay.
     
  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Further tarnish has the reputation of whatever group you belong to.
     
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    true but you don't have to live someone in order not to hate them.

    Yeah I saw where you tried to give one but you failed.
     
  7. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    I think that invading other peoples lands and destroying their religious and cultural artifacts and enslaving them are acts of pure hate. That is what the First Commandment says to do. It is also the only thing that all people have ever done throughout human history. It may be humanity's prime directive.
     
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    Would you like an example from the Bible, the Talmud, the Koran, or the Book of Mormon?
     
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    You're missing historical context.
     
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    No thanks.
     
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    No one isw denying the holocaust, they are denying that the J-Ws were the victims.
    The J-Ws have no evidence they were victims of a holocaust, the germans on the other hand, there is a mountain of evidence they in fact WERE the victims of a holocaust conducted by the J-Ws against humanity!
    NONE of your alleged eye witnesses have ever seen anyone gassed in any camp.

    I have highly credible 'Jewish' eye witnesses that were in the camp and their testimony matches the evidence, proving that your marxi-Zio-commie J-Ws are LYING since you do not have so much as one shred of 'evidence'!

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    Do you comprehend how a in a legitimate court proceeding the jury/judge distinguishes between and determines which witnesses are lying and which are telling the truth?

    Witnesses backed by material evidence are without doubt telling the truth, These are the Jews. J-Ws on the other hand have no evidence what so ever and rely upon the fairy tales.

    Everyone is still waiting for any material evidence the J-Ws were victims of some holocaust, since Jews made it abundantly clear the J-Ws are LIARS and cannot be trusted.
     
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    Now that the Holocaust Industry and its complicit MSM has given up telling lies about homicidal steam chambers, electrocution chambers, "human vaporizers"(1) Conveyor Belts of Death(2) etc, I wonder when they're going to quit lying about homicidal gas chambers?



    (1) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED


    (2) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED
     
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    Someone needs to learn what a metaphor is.
     
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    on Feb. 23, 2006 this video was banned by Google.



    https://altcensored.com/watch?v=TGFXfJVO1OI

    Were 900,000 Jews “gassed” at Treblinka? Were 3.9 million Jews “steamed to death” in “steam chambers” there, too, as the Allied victors asserted right after World War II during the Nuremberg trials?
    The current official “Holocaust” story is that Treblinka 2 is the largest mass burial site in the entire world, where the Germans gassed 900,000 Jews in 13 “gas chambers disguised as shower rooms.”
    “Holocaust Revisionists” or “Holocaust Deniers” assert that there is no evidence to support this claim, and tales of “gas chambers disguised as shower rooms” are wartime atrocity fiction similar to previously debunked claims about Jews being made into soap and lampshades.
    Between 2012 and 2014, British Archaeologist Dr. Caroline Sturdy Colls conducted investigations on the grounds of the former Treblinka camp with the intention to refute the Deniers’ claims once and for all. The results of her studies were prominently featured by TV documentaries in both the UK and the US.
    In "The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax," US filmmaker Eric Hunt expertly analyzes Dr. Sturdy Colls’s investigations and exposes them as a massive fraud. For instance, her research actually included digging near clearly marked Christian graves claiming to find new “hidden mass graves”; she also falsely assigned homicidal intent to a normal life-saving bath and disinfection complex at the entrance to the Majdanek concentration camp, and misidentified a terracotta tile excavated at Treblinka as belonging to the floor of a homicidal “gas chamber.”

    https://archive.org/download/youtube-YuAAjrbbBiM/The_Treblinka_Archaeology_Hoax-YuAAjrbbBiM.mp4
     
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    [​IMG]
    January 24, 1985
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    Book 'An Artistic Picture'

    Survivor [LIED] never saw actual gassing deaths

    by Dick Chapman

    A CONCENTRATION camp survivor yesterday admitted he never witnessed anybody being gassed to death and his book about Auschwitz-Birkenau is only "an artistic picture...not a document for a court."

    Rudolf Vrba, now an assistant professor at the University of B.C., told the Ernst Zündel trial that his written and pictorial descriptions of the Auschwitz crematoria and gas chambers are based on "what I heard it might look like."

    Zündel is charged with knowingly publishing false information about the Holocaust that harmed or was likely to harm racial or social tolerance.

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    Defence attorney Doug Christie, of Victoria (left), challenged Vrba's earlier testimony that he saw a Nazi SS soldier in a gasmask pouring poison gas into a low bunker conected to a Birkenau crematorium.

    Vrba yesterday admitted he was never inside that particular bunker, after Christie suggested it was the roof of a mortuary Vrba had seen, not a gas chamber.

    Vrba also admitted some of the thousands of women, elderly and children he claimed were marched directly to gas chambers upon arrival might have [instead] been going to the camp's bathhouse.
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/controversies/liars/Vrba/Vrba240185.html





    Lawyer challenges crematoria theory

    by Kirk Makin

    ERNST Zundel's lawyer challenged the testimony of a Holocaust survivor yesterday, telling the man he couldn't have seen concentration camp chimneys belch smoke and flames from exterminated Jews because crematoria don't emit anything.

    He told of how he and other internees even thought they could tell whether fat or skinny people, Ukrainians or Poles, were being cremated by looking at the color of the smoke.

    Mr. Friedman's sudden indecision in the face of Mr. Christie's forceful questioning touched off an almost-perceptible shockwave in the courtroom. "Couldn't there have been other explanations (for the smoke and flames)?" Mr. Christie asked, pressing home his advantage.

    "Yes, there could have," Mr. Friedman replied. "If I had listened to you at the time when I was listening to other people (in the camp), I might have listened to you. But at the time I listened to them."

    In one of two articles forming the subject of the charges, the author maintains information on the Holocaust has been grossly exaggerated or faked.


    There is no end to the lies that have been propagated by the J-Ws

    When we get down to the facts its all a massive fraud for the purpose of extortion and power and iron fist control of the masses by a tiny minority, whats not to like about the Marxi-Zionist-Commie J-Ws?





     
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    They got away with the lies because they were able to prevent independent observers from investigating the claims. Now the thugs are making it a crime to deny their lies.
     
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    What independent observer has, in any rational way, been able to debunk the Holocaust? There have been braindead, easily debunkable claims about swimming pools and flimsy wooden doors, but no actual evidence for the denialist conspiracy nuttery.
     
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    Not easy enough for you since you wound up being debunked! LOL

    As usual no one but you is trying to claim that the J-Ws did not perform their holocaust sacrificial ritual of burning people alive for their G-D, what its name, Moloch right......

    We have all the official records, what we are denying is the J-Ws incessant LIES that they J-Ws were the victims, they did not sacrifice themselves, that would be top shelf nuttery, they sacrificed the Germans, Dresden, this is not rocket science you know, especially since they admit they had their holocaust in thousands if not millions of texts.

    Even you admit they had their holocaust:

    you never tell a J-W as distinguished from a 'Jew', that they did not have their holocaust pyre, because they did!




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    A RAF Crewman: There were people down there being fried to death in melted asphalt in the roads, they were being burnt up and we were shuffling incendiary bombs into this holocaust. I felt terribly sorry for the people in that fire I was helping to stoke up. [Garrett, Stephen A. Ethics and Airpower in World War II—The British Bombing of German Cities. New York: St. Martin’s Press, 1993. Page 82]

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    Winston Churchill: German cities . . . will be subjected to an ordeal the like of which has never been experienced by a country in continuity, severity and magnitude . . . To achieve this end there are no lengths of violence to which we will not go. [Garrett, Stephen A. Ethics and Airpower in World War II—The British Bombing of German Cities. New York: St. Martin’s Press, 1993. Page 31]


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    Dresden was admitted to be a nonmilitary unarmed city full of close to a million refugees fleeing the russians from breslau, and what did the J-Ws do?

    RAF Crewman: To just fly over it without opposition felt like murder. [It was] I felt it was a cowardly war. [McKee, Alexander.Dresden 1945—The Devil’s Tinderbox.New York: E.P.Dutton, 1982. Page 66]

    The Dresden Holocaust, Murder and Burning
    of Defenseless NonCombatant German Civilians





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    Stars and Stripes is an American military newspaper that focuses and reports on matters concerning the members of the United States Armed Forces. It operates from inside the Department of Defense, but is editorially separate from it, and its First Amendment protection is safeguarded by the United States Congress, to whom an independent ombudsman, who serves the readers' interests, regularly reports.


    Stars & Stripes
    London Edition, Saturday, May 5, 1945, Vol. 5, No. 156

    Air Raid on Dresden Killed More Than 300,000


    by Dan Regan
    Stars and Stripes Staff Writer

    With the 1st Army, May 3 (Delayed) -- The Allied air raid on Dresden on Feb. 13-14 killed 300,000 persons, according to a report by Dresden police to a group of 600 -- British and French -- prisoners who were given passes by the Germans to enter the American lines.

    Nine British PWs were working in Dresden during the raid and said the horror and devastation caused by the Anglo-American 14-hour raid was beyond human comprehension unless one could see for himself.

    One British sergeant said,

    "Reports from Dresden police that 300,000 died as a result of the bombing [and that] didn't include deaths among 1,000,000 evacuees from the Breslau area trying to escape from the Russians. There were no records on them.

    "After seeing the results of the bombing, I believe these figures are correct."

    "They had to pitchfork shriveled bodies onto trucks and wagons and cart them to shallow graves on the outskirts of the city. But after two weeks if work the job became too much to cope with and they found other means to gather up the dead."

    "They burned bodies in a great heap in the center of the city, but the most effective way, for sanitary reasons, was to take flamethrowers and burn the dead as they lay in the ruins. They would just turn the flamethrowers into the houses, burn the dead and then close off the entire area. The whole city is flattened. They were unable to clean up the dead lying beside roads for several weeks," the sergeant added.


    Psychopathic Marxi-Zio-Commie J-Ws
     
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    Today:

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    I suppose you think everyone is braindead but you and the 307 Marxi-Zio-Commies?


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    Another snarky evasion...

    Everything I listed was claimed to have been used by the Germans to "exterminate" about 11 million people* and make their bodies disappear.

    The "newly invented vaporizer"(1) was just another Allied fabrication used in a fraudulent effort to convict Axis "war criminals" and account for all the missing bodies in mass graves that have yet to be found because they simply do not exist.

    A $100,000- reward(2) remains for anyone who can find the missing bodies at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II.

    Why hasn't anyone been able to claim it?



    * About 6 million Jews & 5 million others as claimed in holocaust lore


    (1) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED


    (2). "THE HOLOCAUST ARCHAEOLOGY HOAX"
    http://www.nafcash.com/

    EXCERPT "It is alleged in orthodox historiography that; during WW II - hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of corpses were buried in numerous “huge mass graves” at Belzec, Chelmno, Ponary, Sobibor and Treblinka II. However, despite all the deceptive allegations to the contrary, the truth is; the largest (in terms of quantity of remains) of the - one hundred - graves / cremation pits that are alleged to have been scientifically proven to currently exist at these sites, in which verified human remains have been tangibly located via bona fide, verifiably honest and conclusively documented archaeology; contained the remains of - ONLY SIX PEOPLE.

    Those who believe they can refute any statement of fact articulated on this web page are invited to accept

    THE HOLOCAUST ARCHAEOLOGY HOAX CHALLENGE

    $100,000.00. REWARD

    For proving - just 1 / 1,000 of 1% - of the criminally fraudulent buried remains allegations" CONTINUED
     
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    Re:
    The initial 1946 Red Cross Report debunks the fraudulent holocaust narrative that you and a minority of people around the world are gullible enough to believe without question.

    Meanwhile, the vast majority of people who have heard of the Holocaust have enough sense to recognize residual Allied propaganda and the impossible claims of the Holocaust Industry for the outright lies they are.(1)


    "International Red Cross Report Confirms the Holocaust of Six Million Jews is a Hoax"
    http://www.renegadetribune.com/inte...ort-confirms-holocaust-six-million-jews-hoax/

    EXCERPT “In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatsoever of ‘gas chambers’.

    The original 1946 edition did not even talk of ‘extermination’ or ‘death camps’ but after the emotional impact of the Nuremberg trials the Red Cross felt compelled to introduce into the expanded 1948 Report several, very cursory references to ‘death camps’ (Vol. 1 p. 641) and ‘extermination camps’ (Vol. I p. 645).

    However, no means of ‘extermination’ is indicated.

    In all its 1,600 pages the three-volume Report does not even mention such a thing as a
    ‘gas chamber’.

    It acknowledges that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but’ its complete silence
    on the subject of ’gassings’ is ample refutation of the ‘Holocaust’ legend.”CONTINUED



    (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
     
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    I spent a little time researching the adventures of C.S. Colls at Treblinka.
    She and her group of investigators were not at all reluctant to desecrate clearly marked Christian graves that had nothing to do with WW 2 but refused to examine any alleged mass graves that may have been Jewish.

    In their collective zeal to find a homicidal gas chamber, they tried to pass off a six pointed star that was part of a maker's mark on the back of tiles in a ruin as proof that they had found the mythical gas chamber.


    "Smithsonian Red-Faced after “Treblinka Star of David Tiles” Shown to be Not Jewish At All"
    http://newobserveronline.com/smithsonian-red-faced-after-treblinka-star-of-david-tiles-shown-to-be-not-jewish-at-all/

    EXCERPT "The Smithsonian Institutes’ TV documentary division has been severely embarrassed with the revelation that its recently-released “Treblinka: Hitler’s Killing Machine” documentary—which claimed to have “proved” the existence of “gas chambers” at Treblinka because of the discovery of “tiles with Stars of David,” is an extremely amateurish hoax.

    But, even worse for Colls, Schute, and the Smithsonian, the symbol which they all claim to be a “Star of David” is nothing of the sort.

    It is in fact a brand mark of the 125-year old Dziewulski i Lange porcelain factory in Poland. That factory still exists, although it was renamed the Opoczno Terracotta Products Factory in 1950 and is today just called Opoczno S.A."CONTINUED
     
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    Maybe actually check out what the Red Cross had to say about that. I would hate to ruin the surprise. And people not hearing about something =/= it didn't happen. I shouldn't have to explain such elementary concepts to an adult. What do you still not understand about the intellectual dishonesty of this argument?
     
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    So one link from a rabidly racist cult who can't manage even the slightest bit of honesty (and who wants to pretend they don't understand what a metaphor is) and a broken link for the second. And, yes, both mass graves and crematoria were discovered and well-documented. But that offends the neo-Nazis, so let's protect their little racist feelings by pretending that facts don't exist, right?
     
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    Looks like the anti-Semitic history deniers are busy trying to find an argument that is somehow actually dumber than the "swimming pool" or "flimsy wooden doors" argument. Not sure if that is possible, but it is entertaining to watch them try to outdo themseles.
     

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