Trump declares national emergency to combat coronavirus, authorizes waiving of laws and regulations

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by MrTLegal, Mar 13, 2020.

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  1. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, twofold.

    The declaration of National Emergency allows the Executive Branch the ability to relax rules and Laws in the name of expedience. Namely, FDA regulations and underlying U.S. Code that dictates drug to market protocol. The President can now authorize human trials of drug therapies without the lengthy process required by law.

    Secondly, with many whipping up panic and hysteria, the President can act quickly to quell unrest if it presents itself. The President can now authorize the Federalization of the National Guard and the use of the U.S. Armed Forces within the United States and ORDER their action. Ostensibly, the need would be focused on immediate delivery of relief supplies, medications etc with the ability to commandeer roads, vessels and aircraft etc as/if needed.

    It also gives the President to control media access to the public. At this point if the President or his assignees want to use CNN to broadcast information (propaganda) to the public CNN is compelled to oblige.

    This help? I think it's using a sledge hammer to squish a bug but that's on congress, they should have foreseen a pandemic and narrowed the powers available. We'll see better more defined legislation coming out of this next year or so.

    Have a corona free day.
     
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    I just want to thank you for your posts. Whenever I feel down on myself I just read one of your posts and instantly feel better about myself. Laughter really is the best medicine.
     
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    51 dead and nearly 600 new cases yesterday
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    You realize that trump making that statement later than February 2nd, when he should have had more information about the truth, is worse for him right?
     
  5. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    You should stay away from declaring what would happen in a court of law.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    18,000 dead and 61 million infected during Obama’s incompetent swine flu handling.

    Let me know when we there?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes... our own in-residence councilor know better :applause:
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Awesome.

    That still requires an injection from those who have already been infected.
     
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    Well, you may be right. The 51st American to die from Coronavirus was just reported. She was an 82 year old with emphysema from New York. So a woman with an underlying chronic disease that alone is a major cause of death among the elderly lives past the average age for her gender contracts the Coronavirus and passes away. Yea, that’s a cause for panic.

    This situation is very serious enough to justify declaring a national emergency. The panic and hysteria overwhelming warrants one. Hell, just read some of the post in this forum. Go to any grocery store and watch people with carts full of toilet paper. I had no idea that a side effect of Coronavirus is mass defecation.
     
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    Go away until that moment, then.
     
  11. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    Some of the people I love most in this world are the elderly and those who have underlying conditions.
     
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    So should you.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While you pandering your illegal (pun intended) knowledge?

    Not in your life! :D
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well... go take care of them with the advice you’ve been given us for the last week.

    Please? :hug:
     
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    It's because of our bleeding hearts. We worry that Trump's base is getting false healthcare advice. We could have let them not take precautions and reduced their numbers but we're too sentimental I guess.
     
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    Full tongue ? .. around the world ?
     
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    That’s not the point. The fact was a forum member made a blatant false statement about President Trump’s INITIAL response to the Coronavirus.

    Iranian Monitor said:
    Trump's initial response to the coronavirus was truly pathetic.

    Then continued to defend that blatant false statement with no facts, quotes or media sources. Only when backed into a corner with undeniable proof did forum member backtrack his words and attempt to correct his anti Trump false propaganda.


    So now we have President Trump’s INITIAL comments about Coronavirus being comments made 40 days after the fact about travel restrictions on a completely different continent.

    And we wonder why our country is divided. Our country is currently undertaking a medical hysteria and people are just purposely fanning the flames with lies, bullcrap and misquotes.
     
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    We can thank Mnuchin and Pelosi for getting the ball rolling. It wasn’t a secret they were at it 24/7 (Thursday/Friday) to come to an agreement.
     
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    Oddsmakers now have it near 50/50 - which is well down from where Trump was - not including the Corona effect in this equation.

    This election is a toss up - and only because Blue has done nothing but "Bad Trump" for 3.5 years - The Hillary Strategy lives on.

    I give the edge to Blue on the basis of the demographic time bomb. Blue won the popular vote in 2016 - barely - but - this was with how many Anti Establishment Bernie Supporters sitting on the sideline - and in general she was a terrible candidate - so condescending and obnoxious that many Dem women do not like here - although voting holding their nose.

    Throw Black support of Biden in with Latino Support of Sanders - and get these folks out to vote - and Red has a very tough hill to climb.

    That is without corona - with corona ? this could mobilize voters - as the pandemic should have subsided - if not - that is a weird card - impossible to predict.

    My guess though is that corona and the market crash should it persist helps blue.
     
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    Ok Mr(come in the middle of a discussion)TLegal. You of all members in this forum should know the importance of facts and evidence. You should backtrack the posts between myself and Iranian Monitor covering this topic and then make judgment.
     
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    And they friggin die. That’s the facts of life. Life expectancy of US males is 76. Life expectancy of US females is 81. She was 82 with emphysema.

    From the moment the doctor slaps us on our butts and we take our first breath we begin to die. Sometimes it takes as long 105 years and sometimes it’s only 105 days. There’s only one guarantee in life. You’re guaranteed to die.

    He who is not busy being born is busy dying.
     
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    That poster is a Iranian apologist. How anybody defending that hellhole and the way it is handling C19 can criticize the US is beyond belief.

    I blocked him weeks ago, I’d rather read spam emails about my rich dead uncle in Uganda Leaving me $25,000,000 than his post.
     
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    No court is every going to toss out opinions because you have a different understanding of the definition of the word "initial."

    Here is a list of 20 times that Trump's INITIAL response to Covid-19 was to downplay it or to reveal a shocking lack of information:

    January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
    February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
    February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
    February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
    February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
    February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
    February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
    February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
    February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
    March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
    March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
    March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
    March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
    March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
    March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
    March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
    March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
    March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
    March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
    March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
     
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    It’s rather amazing any Obama supporter is offering any comment on the president’s handling of this issue when compared to Obama and Biden’s handling of the swine flu
     
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    So are you agreeing with Iranian Monitor that this initial response was “truly pathetic”? Because with everyday that passes more and more health professionals are attributing this one act as the defining factor of why the US has such a low infection rate compared to other countries.
     

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