Democrats Block Coronavirus Bill That Provides Lifeline To Economy, Families

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  1. Bluesguy

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    The Republican have the bill, that is NOT loaded up with extraneous partisan acts, and are ready to pass it. It's the Democrats putting in the poison pills like unions and women of corporate boards, emission standards for airlines, subsidies for solar and wind power and a whole laundry list.
     
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    Have they passed it? Pass what we need NOW not some crystal ball project for two years from now in a plan to make us dependent on government. KEEP PEOPLE WORKING as much as possible. What does airline emissions have to do with anything, putting union and women on corporate boards, green energy subsidies?
     
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    I agree. Remove the junk including the secrecy clause and the Republican slush fund. Pass it today in an emergency session.

    Agree?
     
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    I see you don't understand them at all. When a company is not expanding and growing, for whatever reason such as the market is full, but is in a sustained production and sales part of the cycle they accumulate cash. That cash is sitting there, doing nothing, they don't need to buy a new machine or build a new factory, so they offer stockholders who ARE looking to invest in companies they expect to grow and expand and their stock values to go up if they would like to sell their stock to the company. That frees up that capital for those other expanding companies that hire people creating taxpayers instead of a government expense. And YES investors like me who have our capital in our retire funds benefit for the increase in stock price TOO, I bet you think that is bad too.
     
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    I don't agree with the premise of your statement nor how you paint it.

    But tell me what do you think we need now the most liquidity or welfare?
     
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    I didn’t think you would. What happened to “Pass what we need NOW”, or do you think we need to be kept in the dark about who is receiving taxpayer funds and 500 billion in slush funds to be doled out as a single person sees fit without restriction?
     
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    You would think in this emergency, a time of crisis the two major parties could put aside their partisanship and work something out. Compromise, sit down together and get it done. No, it seems each major party is too busy looking for a political advantage for November. I'm so disgusted with both major parties, I'm determine to vote third party for every office come November. Republicans and Democrats, party firsters, party over country, loyalty to party and to hell with America seems to be their motto.

    They both need to be tossed out the window onto the trash heap of history. Every partisan, party firster will now begin with all the excuses of this isn't their party's fault, all the blame is with the other party. Well, kiss my butt. Get it done or resign and get the hell out of Washington. Let someone who actually care about the people and country take your place if all you care about is your darn political party.

    Republicans and Democrats can stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm done.
     
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    I think a lot of Democrats and Working people in America haven't forgotten about the Government Bail Outs of the 2007-2008 Recession and the Million Dollar Bonus's that were paid out to Millionaire Executives and Banksters, while the Average American workers lost their entire retirements. I'm not fan of Democrats, but I'm also not a Fan of Greedy Millionaires and Billionaires getting these crazy Bonus checks that should have been used to help people struggling through a Financial Crisis. I believe the Democrats are correct to be suspicious and to make sure this $2 Trillion dollar stimulus goes to the people who NEED! it and not used as a way for Billionaires to profit.
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/wall-street-bailout-executive-compensation/
    I also don't like the idea of this Stimulus being used as a bargaining chip for the Green New Deal by Democrats either.
     
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    I'm not going to agree to some sophomoric talking points like "slush fund".

    Now what is more important right now for the economy liquidity or welfare?
     
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    What slush fund? What secrecy clause?
     
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    I did the same with my two democrat senators.
     
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    I think the Democrats in Congress, mainly Pelosi and Schumer, have some time on their hands to create a House Of Representatives' Coronavirus aid package. They finished up in the Senate over the weekend, and now it's back to the House to see what they want to do.

    I know that time is ticking and I'm getting a little anxious too, but there is still time left. It's not like we passed Trump's original proposal for the date on the checks to be April 6th, and then a second check May 18th.

    And remember the House just came back from recess on Monday, today (03/23/2020). So they're hammering out democrat ideas for now.
     
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    Your bias and your leftwing talking points are showing.

    Are you truly unable to put partisanship aside even this one time?

    You think this is ok because you think it will hurt Trump ---- I think this is not going to have the ending you want it to have.
     
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    A provision that allows unilateral and unregulated discretion or the Treasury Department (Treasury Department fund) to dispense funds and then not have to disclose the recipients for six months after the package is released.
     
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    Ok call it the Treasury Department fund if it makes you feel better. Remove the junk including the secrecy clause and the unregulated Republican “Treasury Department fund”. Pass it today in an emergency session.

    Agree?
     
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    There wouldn't be a problem if the Repubs weren't trying to steal all of the money.
     
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    Well if the Dept Of Tres to dispense it’s being regulated from the govt. they are loans to businesses that they have to apply for...what do you mean by unilaterally? Is every business suppose to apply to Congress and have them vote?

    so it’s not secret? The names get released in 6 months
     
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    What is the legitimate purpose of including that scam?
     
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    I think those two provisions should be removed. It has nothing to do with trump — he isn’t even involved in the discussions that I am aware of.

    How is this “hurting” him?
     
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    Why don’t you want businesses to be able to apply for loans during the Chinese Virus outbreak?
     
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    Unregulated, meaning the treasury department could just give it away with no taxpayer protections. TARP had an independent panel and many eyes on the loans and we recovered more than we lent. We should use that model.

    It is hidden for 6 months. How is this being defended?
     
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    What does trump have to do with this? Congress controls the process, not trump.
     
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    Strawman
     
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    Looks like they did it again during the day today.

    These Democrats don't deserve to be in office. Trump doesn't either, but these Democrats standing in the way of helping people sure as hell don't.
     
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    Understandably, Republicans are favoring corporate interests and Democrats the worker.

    Despite the partisan kabuki theatre, they'll come to an acceptable compromise quite soon, I expect. That's in all their interests.
     

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