Arizona man dies after attempting to take Trump coronavirus 'cure'

Which is good news for the next 4000 patients who get to the emergency room. Not so much for the 30000+ who are expected to come after that.

 

So, pardon me for asking, but where is your link showing that fishbowl cleaner is the same as the drug hydroxychloroquine?

In fact, medical doctors believe hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment. Their confidence in hydroxychloroquine has ispired them to hoard the drug for themselves and their families.

"Brito said his pharmacy had about 800 tablets on Monday and were nearly sold out in about an hour. One doctor called and asked for 200 tablets, but the company refused. “He was a little upset about it but he understood and he went quickly from 200 to 42 tablets, which is essentially treating two people,” Brito said. “So yeah, they’re stockpiling it.”

A pharmacist in Houston, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation and violating patient privacy, said he was recently asked by a surgeon for an unusually large quantity with unlimited refills. “He said it was because his wife had lupus,” the pharmacist said, “but when I asked him for her name and diagnosis, he told me just to put it in his.”
PROPUBLICA, SERIES: CORONAVIRUS, Doctors Are Hoarding Unproven Coronavirus Medicine by Writing Prescriptions for Themselves and Their Families, By Topher Sanders, David Armstrong and Ava Kofman, 3/24/20.
https://www.propublica.org/article/...escriptions-for-themselves-and-their-families

 

Yeah. That's good, very good, and a much better slope on the graph now. But all of the projected and modeled numbers are like Plato's ideal forms, all still unproven.

 

I gave you the two unique and specific formulas for two unique and specific chemicals and you keep claiming they are the same chemicals and falsely claiming which one Trump mentioned even though showed over and over your claim is false and you. have yet to post anything to prove it.

You really want to talk about rational? Now THAT'S RICH.....

 

I know. It's what I'm saying: Trump is an idiot. He received from the previous administration a 70-page Preparedness playbook in case of a pandemic. And instead of using the extra time to prepare that closing travel from China gave us.... he did nothing.

I don't think you're getting it. Shutting travel from China turned out to be a good thing. But believing that that was all he needed to do is where his stupidity shines through.

BTW, I don't see you retracting your "meanwhile" statement. I think that's where you should have started.

 

Mama said never to wash down pills with a glass of grapefruit juice cuz the little changes done to the pills might kill ya, and Mama was right.

Them changes, them little changes can change it all.

 

My link to.... Are you serious? Do you think the Trump supporters in Arizona would look for a link?

What nonsense!

Looks like you'll say anything to avoid the reality that Trump acted as a reckless dope!

There is no doubt in my mind that what doctors say is worth paying attention to. There is also no doubt in my mind that what Trump says can kill people.

Understand what I'm saying: it's Trump, not "medical doctors" who is a complete moron who should never be giving medical advice.

 

When doctors say the same thing it is good. When Cuomo says the same thing it is good. When Trump says the same thing it is bad. I'm sure there's nothing partisan about your position /sarcasm

 

Don't know if this was posted in this thread, but I find this amusing..

SNIP
Twitter removed a false tweet by Donald Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani touting one of the president’s favorite, untested drugs to battle COVID-19.

Giuliani quoted parts of another tweet from a right-wing conspiracy theorist falsely claiming that the drug hydroxychloroquine proved to have a “100% effective rate treating COVID-19,” according to a screenshot of the deleted tweet in Mediaite.

Twitter confirmed to Mashable that Giuliani’s tweet was removed Friday and his account temporarily locked for violating the company’s rules against COVID-19 misinformation.
ENDSNIP

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/rudy-giuliani-covid-19-drugs-twitter-delete-064644685.html

Of course, if Twitter was to delete all Rudy tweets that violated some policy somewhere, he'd only have about 5 tweets remaining...

 

I don't know. But there is a lot partisan in putting words in other people's mouth without even bothering to explain what the f....hell you're talking about!

If you mean Trump's claim that taking chloroquine won't kill anybody, a quote from these "doctors" you mention would be warranted.

 

DUPLICATE

 

That's sad, dangerous and should horrify us all.

These are dangerous times. Shouldn't all social media, including this forum, have a similar policy?

 

Both Cuomo and Trump discussed the possible benefits of hydroxychloroquine. Guess which one you condemned and which one you gave a pass?

 

Quote Cuomo saying it won't kill anybody.

 

Nice, so now you're moving the goal posts. Amazing how politics will cause a person to change their strong moral convictions. Earlier you said a politician should never be discussing medicine. Funny how that works.

 

The already existing drug, known as Hydroxychloroquine, exhibited “encouraging early results against the virus. We’re going to be able to make that drug available immediately” by prescription, the president said.

Trump said the drug was being “fast-tracked” by the FDA, but the agency later clarified that the drug had not yet been approved to treat COVID-19, according to Bloomberg News.

“Nice part is it’s been around a long time, so if things don’t go well, we know it won’t kill anyone,” Trump said.



They.... took... something.... else.... get... it... yet?
https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-t...ine-treat-coronavirus/UlmcYjEZPwBxXleD74S52K/

Serious have someone explain this to you or just admit you are trolling.. You have tried the patience of quite of few people here in the last few days.

 

Once again....

“Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure,” the woman told NBC.

She said her advice would be: “Don’t take anything. Don’t believe anything. Don’t believe anything that the president says and his people … call your doctor.”

Yeah, they're morons, but that's fully clear by the fact that they were listening to Trump in the first place, then multiplied by the fact that they put poison in their systems...

 

We have so many homeless bums transmitting it
Plus we have many Chinese and Europeans on business

 

No. Quote him giving medical advice like Trump did and I'll condemn him till his head turns blue. Why in the world would I give Cuomo a pass?

I'm starting to think that your statement is full of crap. Anybody who has something material to say doesn't need to be asked to quote it so many times.

You make the same mistake most Republicans make. You think I'm as partisan as you are. I'm happy to criticize anybody anywhere any time if they deserve it. My loyalty is to facts and rational thought. Not to politicians or political parties. If Cuomo did give any sort of medical advice to people, I'll be more than happy to criticize him. But I'm not just taking your word for it. Quotes are required.

 

What the hell is this? You respond to a post where I ask for a quote from Cuomo, by quoting Trump?

 

You continue to pretend that Trump gave medical advice to anyone. Quote him ever doing that or recommending that anyone ever take any kind of medicine. Both Cuomo and Trump discussed what medical professionals were telling them were possibilities with the drug hydroxychloroquine. I can't give you quotes of giving medical advice because neither of them did this. Partisanship is condemning one and not the other and you won't find me condemning Cuomo for repeating the medical information he has been given.

 

If I were on the left I would be in utter frustration mode 24 hours a day.

Impeachment not only failed but raised his rating.

C19 is raising his rating.

And my lone hope is Joe Freaking Biden to take Trump out?

Utter hopeless would set in, if I were a lefty....which I'm not thank God.

 

"... it's not going to kill anybody. Whereas if you go with a brand new drug, you don't know what's gonna happen. You have to see and you have to go through long tests. This has been used in different forms... Powerful drug!"
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...oronavirus-cure.570050/page-9#post-1071544116

Now your quote and link! Quit stalling. I'm waiting.

And your continuing stalling indicates that I'm waiting in vain because you have nothing!

 

I assume you know that Trump doesn't give medical advice to anyone there. Previously you condemned Trump for discussing drugs but you continue to refuse with Cuomo or with any of the other Dem governors.

"I’ve spoken with a number of health officials and there is a good basis to believe that they could work. Some health officials point to Africa, which has a very low infection rate and there’s a theory that because they’re taking these anti-malaria drugs in Africa, it may actually be one of the reasons why the infection rate is low in Africa. We don’t know, but let’s find out and let’s find out quickly. And I agree with the President on that and we’re going to start and we’re going to start Tuesday."

https://yournews.com/2020/03/23/152...nnounces-start-of-chloroquine-test-trials-in/

No medical advice from either, just discussing what is currently being tested.

 

Cuomo is also saying at some point we should restart the economy with those who have tested negative.

 

It is considered a very safe drug. Obviously Trump never said to do what the OP people did, that title is basically a lie.