Corona Virus Update

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    Names start with a capital letter.

    Aka.. Stop projecting.
     
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    Are you suggesting a President has the authority to mandate that everyone wear a mask?

    Do you understand the difference between recommending or doing it on your own over a government mandate?
     
  3. WillReadmore

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    It's not leadership when you say OTHERS should do it but you won't.
     
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    There are no masks to buy here! !

    Cant mandate something many cannot get. So if he mandated it the dems would say he is cruel and hateful!

    So why dont you guys just **** off? ?
     
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    If you listen to Trump's statement in the briefing, he points out that there are home made masks.

    There are kits for sale.

    There are youtube vids that show how to make a mask out of a small towel and two eleastic hair bands - totally washable, nondestructive of the cloth and no sewing.

    On much of these issues related to separation and protection, Trump's major fault is that he's way too late and shows mediocre leadership toward national participation.

    It's not that he's wrong on those topics - it's more than he's been way late, far to dismissive of the necessity of this nation working together.
     
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    You say so.
    Does it ever occur to any of you how the people of Wuhan, China are recovering from the Coronavirus and they are now out of danger? Do any of you wonder how there are those places and communities are doing all they can to have the COVID-19 to subside? That would be something to think about wouldn't it? Maybe in Italy the COVID-19 Pandemic will hit the peak and I believe that it won't be long before the peak will hit. In the good old US of A, We've gone nowhere but up and no end in sight. Is there something we're doing wrong? We're supposed to stay home as much as possible which is hard to do and I don't blame any of you being restless of this but pray and mean it for this to pass. If we do what we're told and do it no matter how long it takes, We'll get through this and I mean it. China had to do what they're told and they got past this. We're going to have to do what we're told if we want to get through this Coronavirus and mean it. If we can't do what we're told, We'll be doomed.
     
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    Well the good news is that Italy has peaked already. That certainly doesn't mean it's over for them, but they have already peaked and are very slowly coming down the other end of that slope. We are steadily climbing daily as predicted we would be, and the next week will probably be much of the same for most areas.
     
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    There are very good reasons western medicine is based on science.
     
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    No, but he can absolutely make it more likely that everyone will start to engage in better behavior by modeling and encouraging said behavior.
     
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    Adjusting your formula to 300e^.1984(t), where t=35 yields a total of 311072, which is pretty close to the current mark of 311357 at worldofmeters
     
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    Looks like there's no end in sight at this time
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There appears to be a second outbreak in China. You can’t believe any “information” that comes out of China. They are responsible for the global pandemic and the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people.
     
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    The conclusions you draw from reports in China aren't supportable.

    They are reporting a resurgence and their actions are certainly consistent with what one would expect - reinstating harsh limits on leaving homes, ending certain employment that was restarting, etc.

    Their actions are not consistent with claims that China is trying to report a fake resurgence.
     
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    One simple rule of thumb for how to manage this.

    Either you [or your City, County, State, or Federal Governments] are going to overreact or underreact. The chance of reacting exactly the right amount is virtually nil. If you react too little then the virus can spread like wildfire and kill exponentially more people. So the only logical course of action is to overreact.
     
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    This claim of "responsibility" is also a fail.

    There is no way China could have prevented the mutation and transmission of COVID to humans. So, the certainly are NOT reponsible for that.

    The CPC stoppedd the hiding of information when it became known.

    And, they reported the full information to the world.

    We didn't respond for the better part of 2 months.

    Subsequent to that, our response has been unbelievably late, poorly informed, haphazzard and generally not effective.

    Since the February "closing" of travel from China, more than 40,000 people have come here from China.

    We have failed to build or findd the PPE required.

    We NO clear national directive on stay at home, masks, meetings, travel, etc. even TODAY!

    You can't blame that on China. That's us.
     
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    My point is that you cannot believe any information that comes out of China. They claimed to have control and now claim a second outbreak. They lied about human to human transfer and allowed travel of hundreds of thousands of infected people from Wuhan within and without China spreading the virus globally. They again allowed travel from Wuhan after claiming to have control. They also allowed travel to and from Italy.
     
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    Amen.

    And, it has to happen way before some suspected peak arrives. By then, it is WAY too late.
     
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    And providing a breakdown of the serious preconditions in detailed percentage categorization of those who have tragically passed so that those at risk can overreact is an effective way to save lives.
     
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    Had China acted responsibly and with full transparency we would not have to react. Because China did not do these things our medical experts did not realize the seriousness and highly contagious nature of COVID 29. On 1/21 Dr. Fauchi stated we had nothing to worry about. On 2/17 he said that effect on the US would be minuscule.

    Hiw did they get here ?? Why did China allow them to come here ?? Dr. Birx stated that China lied about the human to human transfer on 1/14.
     
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    There is NO reason to suspect a resurgence in China isn't real. We do not know how protected survivers will be.

    You can't blame the CPC for the local handling of this new and totally unknown disease. There was tons of travel well before it was possible to determine that this was something new and serious, how it was transmitted, etc.

    And, then you claim that China allowed travel - but we did, too, and for a longer period of time that they did.

    Plus, it''s here now, and we're doing NOTHING about travel as it has spraed throughout America.

    There really is no excuse for being critical of China given our OWN slow, half hearted, and rarely scientific attempts that have clearly been inadequate.
     
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    Screw China.
     
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    Today Fauci was demanding that China shut down the wet markets [where they sell live, wild animals for food].

    It seems this is a source of a significant number of viruses that moved from animals to humans. China has made an effort to shut these down in the past but not successfully. It sounds like this is one epicenter for outbreaks. Fauci is calling for the world to pressure China on this while holding up Covid 19 as exhibit A.

    One major outbreak [I think they said SARS] came from wild civet cats sold in these markets.

    There is also a movement in China to ban using pets for food. They eat a lot of cats and dogs.

    This is why we have things like the FDA and USDA in the USA. This is a great ex example of why markets cannot be left to run amok - whether they are financial markets [crash of 2008] or food markets. We need government regulations to help prevent disasters like this.
     
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    So you argue that it’s our fault that China lied and infected the world killing ~ 100,000 people ?? Really ???
     
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    They certainly have screwed the world.
     

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