Tell Us Again How Obama's FBI was NOT Corrupt . . . just for giggles; that is.

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have been quite clear in what I have said in spite of your false representations if you can't deal it oh well.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    The person to whom I was responding and veterans around here do.
     
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    Still no proof. No case. No indictments. Nothing.
    Speaking of scumbags. That is those making up stuff. Got something. Make a case.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right - very clear you have not been.. and projection is your specialty.

    You are so " unclear" - that you refuse to answer a simple question - that seeks clarification on your position.

    I have no idea what your position is - because for the 4th post in a row you refuse to answer a simple question seeking that clarification you claim to have blessed us all with.

    Was Dem Congress taking control 2 years prior to Obama entering the WH - responsible for the 2008 Crash - or was it not ?

    From our previous discussions - I was under the impression that you were blaming Dem Congress for the Sht -Show that Obama walked into.

    You have been twirling around for 5 or 6 posts in a row now Twirling around going "NO NO NO.. NO NO NO .. I never Said that" Then Demanding Proof .. Prove I said that .. over and over like a broken record.

    So I say .. OK - Got it - that is not your position - and ask what then is your position .. but you refuse to answer - so clearly -what is unclear - is your position on this issue.

    You then engage in name calling and claim to be the victim of some smear campaign - "false representations" - because I accused you of stating that Dem's congress was responsible for the 2008 Crash.

    If this is not what you believe - then tell us what it is that you do believe.
     
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    I have been quite clear about what I said while you have rambled on trying to put words in my mouth and being argumentative and have YET to address what I actually said and posted. Obama "walked into" a situation he and his fellow Democrats created with their lack of policies to help mitigate the depth and length of the recession and then his stimulus failed by even his own measures. As I have said for EONS and not the what you a rahl fallaciously claim for lack of being able to rebut those FACTS.

    Still waiting either quote me saying the Democrats CAUSED the recession or withdraw the claim.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL you just stated the position that I said you held -- after complaining that I had misrepresented your claim for 5 posts. What a joke.
     
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    Hardly, either quote where I said the Democrats CAUSED the recession or withdraw the claim and stop making it it is a lie on your part. I have stated my position now refute it or go away I have no time nor patience for your further argumentative post.
     
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    I have those dems apparently not since they were cal in g for impeachment before he was sworn in
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    You know details about many phony scandals and conspiracies that have all been investigated and nothing found but total GOP bologna. No indictments not even close.and of course no retractions from the garbage propaganda machine. A few people wanted to impeach him before this but this was all about The whistleblower and blackmailing a friendly foreign government for political advantage.
     
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    ^^^^The result of years of hateful misinformation and ridiculous phony scandals and conspiracies on the GOP propaganda machine....
     
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    hellofromwarsaw Well-Known Member

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    What the hell is wrong with you LOL?
    "Obama "walked into" a situation he and his fellow Democrats created with their lack of policies to help mitigate the depth and length of the recession and then his stimulus failed by even his own measures."
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    I'm missing the word CAUSED in there can you bolden it or something? Do you know what the word "mitigate" means?
     
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    "A situation Obama and the Democrats created" is the same thing as cause. You're absolutely ridiculous and hilarious.
     
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    We were a year into the recession then NOT the beginning, the situation as it existed then because they failed to pass any measures to help mitigate the depth and length and the stimulation they passed then failed to do what Obama said it would.
     
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    "Obama "walked into" a situation he and his fellow Democrats created" is the same as saying Dem's caused the Recession - and especially in the context of the discussion.

    Obama never created nor caused the 2008 Crash - nor did Dem policies enacted 2 years prior to Obama getting to the White House.

    Your claim is 1) unsupported 2) demonstrably false 3) absurd nonsense.
     
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    Actually the stimulus worked. Look at any graph of growth and employment. Of course you live at on an imaginary planet. October 2009 started seven and a half years of growth that Trump has not ruined yet but he's trying.
     
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    No it is completely different sorry that escapes you and makes it impossible for you to discuss it and assigning claims to me I do not make and will not defend because they are not mine. If you can't discuss what I ACTUALLY post and say I have no interest.
     
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    Actually it was a total failure by his own measure. Try his graph

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    How exactly did it work, unemployment hit 10% and stayed over 8 for three years.
     
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    It hit 10% and came down for 7 and 1/2 years straight.
     
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    Yes it was horrible, instead of peaking at 8% as Obama said his stimulus would hold it to and then quickly fall, it shot to 10% and stayed of 8% for the next three years SLLLOOOOOOWWWWWLLLY coming down while at the same time LFPR went over a cliff. So what exactly worked? In the 2001 recession/dot.com bubble/911 Republican policies helped to keep unemployment to 6.5% and then a rapid fall to 52 months of full employment.
     
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    1. More crap GOP propaganda. Obama said that months before and the unemployment rate was over 8% by the time the stimulus was passed. Nothing like the stupidest wars ever in two thousand and 2 + 3. Great for business. Of course you're in many ways talking about the real estate bubble. How did that work out? Always a bubble with a GOP. A corrupt bubble to be sure.
     
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    You were the one that did not want to discuss what you had posted - and that is documented in your previous posts - so quite projecting your issues onto others.

    Projection "is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person"

    Your claim that Obama and Dem's controlling Congress 2 years prior to Obama getting into office - "Created" - the 2008 crash is preposterous nonsense on steroids.

    How about we discuss that
     
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    The stock market crashed in October 2008. The stimulus worked fine. Was probably too small. Of course the Republicans would pass nothing. and your belief or anyway the belief of many Republicans that Obama had two years of power is wrong. Too bad.
     
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    You’re a broken record. Get with me when you have something new, and that’s close to being accurate.
     
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    You have already agreed! Dems were pushin for it
     

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