McCabe admitted FBI couldn't ‘prove the accuracy’ of Steele dossier used for surveillance warrants

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    Want me to blow your mind? The DOJ has never factually asserted the Russian hacking crime.(They did try to indict the troll company, but because of shenanigans there, they couldn't prosecute it.) But when Roger Stone brought it up in his trial, the DOJ went OUT of its way to argue it wasn't necessary and of course lapdog Jackson actually agreed with them.

    When in fact, it should be central to any case. Now, I forgot who but on twitter, one DOJ prosecutor bragged they could prove Russian hacking/interference in an unclassified setting at trial if need be. My response? Make my day. I'd love to see it. Because as of now, 3 years later we haven't seen it.

    So unless we ascribe authority to the same figures who lied throughout the entirety of the investigation, at the very minimum, the question of 'Russian hacking' still exists, because it's unanswered.

    But that's aside the point, let's presume we accept Russian hacking as a premise. You should still tell the truth as an FBI agent. You shouldn't falsify evidence, edit evidence and lie directly to the President of the United States. And when you get evidence that some of your subjects are actually innocent, you should reveal that evidence and drop charges and/or close the file like they WERE going to do before Strzok/Comey channeled their inner Stalin.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you spent months defending the dossier and it being used to corruptly obtain warrants
    Now that there is no defending it with out looking like a total fool it all of sudden becomes irrelevant
     
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    Exactly.

    "The Dossier" is ANCIENT History, and nobody cares.

    The GOP Noise Machine might as well be digging up dirt on John Wilkes Booth.

    That said, if any crimes were actually committed, put 'em on trial (and give 'em the gurney).

    Outside of that?:bored:
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    They also indicted the hackers you know
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    It was always just an extra.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    McCabe under oath congressional questioning
    “no surveillance warrant would have been sought” from the FISA court “without the Steele dossier.
     
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    So what? It doesn’t change what we already know is true. Russia helped trump, while Manafort was asking if working in the campaign would make him whole with Russian oligarchs
     
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    Yes, and an indictment is the equivalent of a list of allegations. It would have been great if it went to trial, and it would've been great to get even more evidence, but alas. We have to go by mouth of authority, I have not challenged that authority with regards to the hacking, ironically because of said missing evidence either way.

    But I will say this: They lied to you, us about EVERYTHING ELSE. I have the slimmest amount of belief left that anything Crossfire Hurricane says, is truthful. If they open their mouths(or these days, tweet), it's a lie.
     
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    actually the opposite is being proven to be true
    Russia wasn't trying to help Trump win but the opposite to damage Trump and democrats and the FBI played right into thier hands

    FBI had information Steele dossier was part of 'Russian disinformation campaign,' declassified footnotes show
    The FBI's Crossfire Hurricane team investigating the Trump 2016 campaign received multiple indications that former British spy Christopher Steele -- one of their key informants in their investigation -- was part of an elaborate "Russian disinformation campaign," according to several newly declassified footnotes from Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz's report on FBI misconduct.
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/de...-been-part-of-russian-disinformation-campaign


    so tell me if Russia was so pro Trump why did they give Steele all this damaging salacious disinformation
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and was thrown out
    indictments dont mean crap its a conviction that would have proven guilt proven that indeed the Russians hacked the DNC server

    now that the transcript has been released so all can see Crowd Strike in their sworn testimony couldn't with certainty say it was the Russians that hacked and stole information from the DNC server that they had no direct evidence hell the couldn't even say with certainty that information was even removed

    here are some quotes from Crowd Strikes sworn testimony

    “We did not have concrete evidence that the data was exfiltrated from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated.”

    “There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left.”

    So there you have it Crowd Strike not only couldn't prove it was the Russians that hacked and stole information they couldn't prove other then assumptions info actually left the server in a hack

    this is why the DNC refused to allow law enforcement take possession of the server they would have discovered the Russians stole that information was all a lie had no "concrete evidence" of it just assumptions
     
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    reads theses quotes from Crowd Strikes sworn testimony


    “We did not have concrete evidence that the data was exfiltrated from the DNC, but we have indicators that it was exfiltrated.”

    “There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left.”

    So there you have it Crowd Strike not only couldn't prove it was the Russians that hacked and stole information they couldn't prove other then assumptions info actually left the server in a hack


    So now you need to ask your self how did those email from the DNC sever become public if its wasn't hacked and removed
    only other explanation it was copied legitimately as in using the proper method and who would be able to do that? like someone working at the DNC that had legitimate access to the server
     
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    Lying to do it is jail worthy.
     
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    Funny how you could care less, when your side does it. Are double standards, now a thing?
     
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    It's coming........it's coming. ;)
     
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    Not sure why folks like you always go off the ridiculous deep end. Just stick to the facts for a change.
     
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    LOL how many times did we rea that on this board. Don't forget Trump wasn't wiretapped BS we dealt with for months too. Thinking back on all those taking every snipit of info and spinning into a mass Russian plot between Trump and Putin. It literally never held up every week yet it went on for years. It got to the point that even total debunked stories are still repeated here as fact. This was a setup from day one and carried out for three years, someone better pay.
     
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    Comey, the FBI, Shiff for brains, and Nadler have egg all over their faces and their defense has to be a weak attempt to screech that "Trump has the DOJ in his pocket" completely this **** started before he was in office.
     
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    The Russian outfit that posted all of those Facebook ads were never translated into English, the were posted in Russian.
    Lol.
     
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    The hacker indictment still stands.
    and you should try reading it, our intel agencies knew it was Russia
     
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    I made a simple statement you said was false. But can’t tell me what was false?
     
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    and what proof have they provided?
    and how did they gather that proof when they didn't even have access to the server
    all they had is what Crowd Strike supposedly provided them them but when put under oath Crowd Strike admitted they had no concrete proof
     
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    If it weren't for double standards they'd have none at all.
     
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    Nah, you went on a rant.
     
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    Again I suggest you read the indictment you didn’t know existed. Pretty obvious we were already spying on those very russians.
     

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